Yum, your breve sounds good TB. I wish you well on day 2! Trust me, I'm not looking forward to being caffeineless either, even though my experience being off caffeine is that I do feel better overall--after the first couple of days. Not looking forward to being without tea, or Diet Rite either, LOL! But I tell myself again that I can do anything for a week We'll see!

Somehow I managed 64 oz yesterday, which is generally about all I can do, except in summer, and I've started off with a big glass this morning. Still need to get to the grocery store to stock up, but I managed to hit the HFS yesterday for flax oil, theromogenic herbs and such.

I haven't decided whether to weigh, measure, or just wing it.

Good morning, the rest of you!!

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BC
LC Since 1998
Highest Weight 172
Current 104-108

Brenda,

I have a book by Ann Louise Gittleman that lists thermogenic herbs and such. I actually have two copies of the book. Let me know if you want to see it.

I gained weight back and am struggling each day to get back into control.

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Ilse

380/286(current)/154
5'6"
"It's kind of fun to do the impossible"
Walt Disney

My DD2 calls these my "happy pills." They are not HRT but are antidepressants that I plan to take for life!

LOL Donna!! My prayer shawl, it turns out, is going to need to go to someone who is either sick enough not to care about all the mistakes, or to someone who can't see them! I've ripped out enough rows now, and have just decided that I'm going with the "buttonholes" in it.

So, Donna.....When you feel like it we can swap stories about "problems" with DD's and family! I've got some doozies. Right now we are all speaking, but there have been years when that wasn't true.

I'm getting a severe case of shame seeing you all working hard to lose! Seriously, I am very proud of you and want to join you. I'm almost getting my head around it. Still looking about 4 months pregnant. Also my butt is sticking out much more than I remember it! :silly: Just happened to peek at it in the mirror this morning. Bad mistake!

Tonight I'm going to bed at 9:00 because starting tomorrow I start the weekend from hell. At 5:00 pm tomorrow I start a confirmation retreat with 10 8th graders and their mentors (25 of us in all). We go to a camp nearby. We'll have cabins and a cozy fireplaced room to meet in, but I'm in charge. That goes until Saaturday afternoon at 4:00. Then I preach at the 8:15 service Sunday morning (have no idea what I'm going to say!), and our Denominational Executive preaches at the 10:00 service and there is a luncheon with church leaders after that. At 4:00 on Sunday, I teach boundaries to 8 Workcamp leaders who will accompany 40 Sr. Hi kids to Jamaica for workcamp in about two weeks. At 6:00 until 8:00 I teach aforementioned 10 8th graders another confirmation session. Then I go home and collapse! Because I am a last minute kind of gal, I, of course, have none of what I am going to say for any of this planned yet. AAAAck!

So, you understand why I am not joining you yet with induction. Maybe next week. But, I do have to start, seriously. And I also need to start exercising next week. (Don't tell Peg that I said that out loud) May 14th (my DH's reunion in CA) is fast approaching, and if I am going to be a PYT instead of a UOT I need to get my butt in gear.

I took a look at the Fat Flush, BC. I'm not sure that I could do that. While we eat healthily, I have never been much of a macrobiotic person. I suspect that I would be better off with induction on Atkins. Anyway, I'll think about it on Monday!

Peace, Peg

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"Live the questions and some day you will live along into the answers."
Rainer Marie Rilke

Atkins since 2003
5'8" 206.4/197/175
64-3/4 years young

Okay, it's day 3 of my starting over and I'm doing okay. I haven't yet been able to keep the carbs under 20 (it's been low 30's the past 2 days) but I am feeling somewhat better. I need to use less Splenda, which means drinking less decaff tea.

I envy you guys that haven't stepped on a scale in a long while - I got weighed at least once a week by the doctors and since I had to go again today of course they weighed me again. I guess it's a good thing because it has made me face reality instead of thinking that I surely hadn't gain THAT much. I was pretty happy because I weighted 203 on the doctor's scales (with clothes on) which means I just may be under 200 on my scales (without clothes)! I'm not planning on weighing myself on my scales until next Tuesday morning. Maybe I need to peek in the mirror more often just for an extra reason to keep on low carbing.

I still haven't made that big run to the grocery to stock up on food. I was just sitting here wondering what I would eat for lunch - I may run out and get a large salad from the Ice House. I know I need to eat more veggies. TeelBee, thanks for the hint about the cheese snacks. I LOVE cheese so I won't make too many of them at a time. I plan on trying it after I go walking tonight.


I can relate to the "crazy lady pills". The doctor took me off the HRT in October - the same week the feds pulled my Vioxx from the market. Then the week before last they took me off the medicine that was supposed to help with the hormone withdrawal and put me on something else. Everyone at home and at work knows to walk softly if they see I'm having a bad day! I really do try to not let that be an excuse to bite someone's head off!

Laffing Bead - you're welcome to join us on our journey! I know how hard it can be to start again but you'll find that it's definitely worth it. Losing the rest of this weight is not going to be a picnic but it sure helps to know that others are in the same boat. Keep pressing on!!!!!!!

?Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me.? Phil. 3:12

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ladybug24
"Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on ..." Phil 3:12

I can't believe this.....my son called last night and said he had to take the dog to the vet and would stop in so I could see my grandkids. I brought the poncho to work, and it fits!!!! She's really tiny for 5 years old and it's actually big on the shoulders so I thought if I just put a few rows of single crochet around the neckline it might work. So, it's back to putting the fringe on it. At least I didn't waste my time. It's only taken 1 ball of wool so far too. Amazing. It was so good to see my babies again. They were all preemies ( the smallest at just 4 pounds) so they've all had their share of health problems, but it looks like they are doing okay now. My grandaughter starts kindergarten in the fall which should be interesting. She has an "attitude" so I'm sure she will be able to teach the teacher lots of things. My grandson calls his sister "honey" which is so adorable but makes her so mad...she tells him to save it for his girlfriend. Okay, enough bragging. lol
I don't know how anyone could not weigh themselves like me....everyday. I have this fear of gaining my weight back so I'm best friends with the scale...for now. I only allow myself a 3 pound leaway and if I get to that 3 pounds I panic. This way I can have a treat every now and again but still not go over the 3 pounds. Usually just pushing a lot of water will get rid of a gain. I know it's not good to weigh everyday, but if I don't I know it will just creep back on and I'll be back where I started and I didn't like that girl.
Peg...I'm sure your shawl can't be as bad as you think. If you're like me you're very critical of your own work. Keep at it...that's why we are doing this...to learn. We can all gang up on BC later...she started this domestic side of us. lol By the time you finish with all your talks, you aren't going to have a voice. Sounds nice though to go to a cabin with a nice big fireplace. All you need is a good book, a big comfy chair by the fire, and get rid of the kids and you'd be in heaven.
TB.... 2 miles is great! I wish I could walk that far. I take my dogs out every night, but they have these little legs and 2 miles to us would be 20 for them. We do the best we can though. Every little bit helps.
Ladybug...haven't had a chance to welcome you yet so this is it. Welcome! Have you tried changing your decaf tea to decaf green tea? It's supposed to help with weight loss so I changed to it a couple of months ago. In fact, there is a green tea challenge on the board too. Takes a bit of getting used to the taste, but I don't mind it now.

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Donna
238.5/166.4/150
I will see my goal weight again!

Ilse, thanks but I have her first FF book, and I think I have Gittleman's cookbook somewhere around. (Like I cook, LOL!) Sorry to hear you are still having trouble getting back on track.

Peg! Yowie! Indeed I am not envying the rest of this week of yours. How do you get yourself into these things! I do wish you well, for sure.
--My sentiment, exactly!

FF, really isn't macrobiotic Peg. It's mainly lean protein and fresh veggies, with a few odd things rolled in, like "cranwater" and using thermogenic herbs as seasonings. I will report that even though I've just been on a modified FF for the last couple of days, I've had a killer headache all day--most likely from limiting caffeine, but could be just one of those headachy days, too.

LadyB, sounds like you are doing pretty well. I imagine it's hard to get down to 20grC if you use Splenda. I've never done Atkins, and I'm not sure I could do induction, honestly, so I admire all you that have, and are......I use the liquid now for sweetening drinks, but of course I'm not using any sweetener this week except for stevia.

LadyB, Donna, I don't get on the scale often because it makes me crazy and I start obsessing. Right now, too, I'm afraid it would just be too discouraging since I'm in one of those "easily discouraged" places. Maybe that's just an excuse, too, who knows

Donna, I'm delighted you have a little customer for your shawl! Who knows what crocheting fun you'll have next--and yes I'll gladly take the blame Peg, I found ribbing patterns like your shawl to be full of perils. I'm doing just a simple scarf in a K3P3, and I have to count every row or I'm making more buttonholes than stitches. It's that moving the yarn from back to front to back that screws me up. But know what? I saw an announcement at our local Borders that an informal knitting group is forming to meet there on 1st and 3rd Tuesdays, based on the "Stitch N *****" groups. It's called "Chicks With Sticks" LOL! I'm gonna check it out, trust me! Do I have it bad, or what.

I spent a few hours today with a friend I haven't seen in a couple of years, although we've talked on the phone. She's gone on a couple of photo safaris to Africa, a lifelong dream, and I got to see a couple of her albums. She's a great photographer, and also tells wonderful stories, so I quite enjoyed the afternoon, in spite of the headache.


TB, Judy, hope you both are doing well!

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BC
LC Since 1998
Highest Weight 172
Current 104-108

Ilse!!!! :jump: Hey, it's great to hear from you!

Donna, what fun to see your grandchildren and that's terrific that the little poncho fits! I bet she looks adorable in it.

BC, well done and getting in so much cranberry water! Does it taste puckery like regular plain cranberry juice?

I'm back in ketosis for the first time in... oh, gosh! A long time! Probably since last summer. Hopefully, I can stick with induction and get back into the weight loss track. I'm tired of the mid-140s and tight waistbands and that disgusting roll just above the waistband.

Ladybug, how is it going this week? Are you still doing induction or have you moved on to OWL?

I found a new snack food that's okay for induction(according to the Atkins website anyway) - toasted soy nuts*. They look a bit like spanish peanuts but smaller and not as red. They certainly aren't macadamia nuts, but they don't taste ~that~ terrible for when you want a little crunchy finger food. They were pretty cheap ($2.79/lb at Whole Foods) and come dry-roasted salted or unsalted (I got the unsalted ones). I guess if they knock me out of ketosis, I'll know I should save them for OWL.

Whoa...Peg! hanging out with all those teens, OMG! It sounds like it's going to be a very event-filled weekend for you - Good Luck with teen retreat and all of your other meetings, too.

Judy, are you still recovering from your weekend with teens-away-from-home?

I think the two of you are pretty special -- to be able to handle that kind of interaction and responsibility. I'd be fried in a minute.

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*Nutrition Info for Toasted Soy Nuts
Serving size 1/8 c.
80 calories
5 g Fat
5.3 g Carb
5.6 g Fiber
9 g Protein

Notice that this is actually slightly negative in carbs once you subtract the fiber.

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~~~Teelbee
Back to GOAL!!!
start weight: 176/goal range: 137-134/now: 138
Reached goal in Aug. 2003 - 4rd year of maintenance.

Hey, TB, I think we were posting at about the same time. Good work on getting in ketosis!! I know you'll do well this week, since I think you have a pretty good will when you make up your mind! Congrats! Yeah, those soy nuts are "interesting" aren't they. Like you say, though, nice for a crunch.

--LOL Yes, I'm afraid I have no ability to relate to kids, whatsoever.

Teel, the diluted cranberry juice still manages to be a bit puckery. I can throw some stevia in it legally, but I've been drinking it straight. For me, it's actually easier than plain water, which I've always had trouble with, excuse the dangling participle.

Note: I really do know better English than I practice, honest!

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BC
LC Since 1998
Highest Weight 172
Current 104-108

You know, BC, your description of FF sounds very much like Atkins induction; but even more strict because it's lower in fat. So, if you can do that, I'm sure you'd find AI to be well within your scope. Not that I'm pushing it... I should look further into the fat flush concepts - possibly could be beneficial. Well, one thing at a time, I'll just keep that in mind as another regime to consider.

I weighed 141.5 this morning and that was after breakfast and coffee and green tea. So, I'm seeing some progress. Must try to hang on to that for more than 6 hours this time, LOL! Haven't remembered to check for ketosis yet to see how the soy nuts affected me. Even if I'm out of ketosis, it could be that I just plain ate too much last night - in particular, a rather large steak (was on sale), plus THREE SF jellos and between a .5 to 1 cup of the soy nuts. In re-reading Atkins, I figure I'm a Gategory "B" eater ("I Crave Food Always!". That's true, and even more so at night. Hopefully, that will moderate as I get further into induction and back into "the groove".

And, BC - about those dangling participles... that's just the way people talk, ya know? Language is always changing, and I think the rule about dangling parciples should be revised to reflect actual verbal usage. To me, it sometimes sounds weird and artificial when I try to write a sentence with correct grammer.

- "What was I thinking of!" vs "Of what was I thinking!"
- "Yes! That's what I went for!" vs "Yes! For that I went!"
- "That's the one I went with." vs "That's the one with which I went".

Of course, I realize I'm often guilty of egregious breaches of grammer and spelling - it happens when I re-write a sentence and over look changed noun-verb agreement or leftover words no longer needed, and so much more. I still find it easier to proof read hard copy than on screen. In my mind, when I read it back to myself, I "hear" it the way I meant it to read rather than the nonsense that's actually there. Y'all are always so patient and kind about it!

Well, must get on with some errands and chores - will check in later to see how you all are doing.

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~~~Teelbee
Back to GOAL!!!
start weight: 176/goal range: 137-134/now: 138
Reached goal in Aug. 2003 - 4rd year of maintenance.

Whew....I didn't think I would be able to get in here today. My boss had the nerve to pile a whole bunch of work on me. That's just cruel on a Friday! If I don't start my day checking in, it just throws me off for the whole day.
I'm still fighting a cold and found myself reaching for some comfort foods last night. (if the truth be told, I was pouting cause ER wasn't on). I could actually graze all night if I wanted to. But, it was ice cream that was my downfall again. It's low carb, but it still didn't like me. I can't believe how I can gain 1 pound overnight just because I had a little treat, and the next day it can be gone. Must be more water weight than actual poundage.
I'm really looking forward to this weekend and possibly sleeping in. I'm tired and don't really want to do too much. Doing month end always wears me out cause the rest of the work still piles up. Then I have to go home and do the books for our own business. A woman's work never ends! But, just might get my trees pruned this weekend. I told hubby that if he didn't prune the apricot tree that he would be picking up apricots the whole summer cause I'm not doing it. And, that I would make his life he$$ if he didn't do it. I think he got the picture. lol A gardner he isn't.
Hope everyone has a great weekend.

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Donna
238.5/166.4/150
I will see my goal weight again!

TB, sounds like you are doing well, steak and SF jello or no. TB, Donna, I'm still trying to find the groove, too. Killer headache again today, not that I wasn't expecting some discomfort, but zowee, it's been gruesome. I finally had a latte about 4pm, thinking a dose of caffeine was a better choice than either hara-kiri or vicodin :eyes:

Teel I had to laugh at your examples of grammar It's so true that no one writes or speaks according to the rules I was taught any more. Even so, when I see some the more egregious (as you so perfectly describe them) infractions whiz by under my fingers, I have to laugh at myself. All those years spent diagramming sentences wasted.....LOL!

I honestly can't remember ever noting any grammos on your part, or typos, either

Donna, how very rude of your boss to pile work on you on Friday, when you have much better things to do! Let us know if you get those trees trimmed

Well, have a great Friday nite!

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BC
LC Since 1998
Highest Weight 172
Current 104-108

Hi all, I'm trying to make a return from the zombie zone. This morning I slept in until 8:00 -- might have been later, but, I had to go to the bathroom. I can't tell you had glad I am to have a day off as I sit here still in my pajamas at 10:30. I plan to be a total slug for the rest of today and tomorrow.

I'm glad to see so many putting in the effort to get back on the straight and narrow. I have gained about 3 pounds over the weight that I maintained for the last year. This morning I was @ 141. I need to do an induction period and get back to tracking what I eat for a while, too. DSIL has effortlessly dropped quite a bit of weight--- I hate peole like that. She has a closet full of smaller size 8 things that she has cleaned out and has waiting for me. Not only is going the wrong way on the scale an incentive, the good clothes should jump start me, too.

BC-I think I'll just have to stick with coffee everyday. It's my big vice and I'm not giving it up -- besides, I don't think I could take the headache either.

Teel - I haven't had a chance to go back to the book yet, but I believe that I am a crave food constantly person, too. That's probably a big part of my downfall right now. Of course baking some LC cakes and cookies seems to be a really big part of the problem. You'd think that if I figured that out that I would quit doing it.....

tia -- extra work on Friday? What's up with that?

Ladybug -- nice to have you join us.

Peg -- I FEEL FOR YOU, GIRL! Believe me, I feel for you. If you are like I was last week, it will take three days just to get normal again. At least you will have Monday off.

Ilse--Nice to have you drop in. Good luck in getting back in the groove. Looks like we are all striving for that.

Did I leave anyone out? If so, I'm sorry. Besides getting back on a better eating plan, I want to get back on a better posting plan. I'm thinking about installing a Firefox browser on my computer at school. I think it has an add-on that will get through filters like the one that keeps me from being able to get here during the day. Of course installing stuff is supposed to be against the rules, but I don't think they will ever know or mess with me if they did. Heck, the good thing about being old, and teaching the stuff that no one else can or will is that I do pretty much what I want. If you generally do it right and the kids are successful you've got it made.

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Judy
highest = 180, goal = 140
Every single time I put food in my mouth, it matters. No more fooling myself!

Attagirl, Judy. I like your attitude!!! There are some advantages to hanging in there for a while, aren't there.....We'd love to hear from you more often,too.

I've had to cave on the coffee issue. The headache was too intense and so was my mood, so I've decided on one latte in the morning; my liver will just have to deal with it The really interesting thing about the last couple of days, though (and I am knocking on wood like crazy here!) is that I feel absolutely in control, and haven't had cravings. This is very, very good--and a place I haven't been in quite a while.

Well, Judy says she's going to veg this weekend, however I suspect that being a type A, she will find some projects that really need to be tackled. (You'll let us know, right, Judy? :()

Me? I'm the Queen of Veg. However, I'm trying to jump start DH on the flooring installation. He's taken quite a long vacation, and there's still one bedroom and 4 closets. I'm anxious now to get past the wood and on to the kitchen and bath floors, but DH has a schedule all his own. So if DH does start up again, I'll be his gopher, sherpa, and general cleanup person. Hey, whatever it takes.

More later.....

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BC
LC Since 1998
Highest Weight 172
Current 104-108

Vegging for the Type A personality =s Vacuuming, light house cleaning, shopping, going to Tyler to check on MIL who broke her arm, entering grades and preparing lessons. I'm sure there will be a few other activities, too. Yeah, I'm not much into inactivity.....

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Judy
highest = 180, goal = 140
Every single time I put food in my mouth, it matters. No more fooling myself!

Quick drive by.....just got home from "camp." Was a HUGE success. Actually got some profound thoughts out of those 8th graders. I fell on the ice this morning on the way down to the lake for worship. (Everything is snowy and icy and frozen) But, they told me that kids can survive anything. (that's why we mad that insane trek) The path down is almost 90 degrees, not quite, but almost. I went flying. Luckily I had on lots of clothing and coat. And I fell in the snow. But, am I sore now! I'm also exhausted. But, have a sermon to write and a workshop to prepare. Nothing tonight so I'll be in bed early!

Didn't eat too badly overnight. There was little chocolate, and that is my total downfall. I had some chips and salsa, and the regular meals which are always high on the carb side at camp. I'm more and more determined to start out Monday with induction. I'm actually kind of excited about it.

Judy, you are amazing. I have to admit that I am more like Brenda. Vegging is not a problem for me when I can. But, I do remember a time when I had too much time on my hands. Now, I can't find time.....

More later....
Peace, Peg

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"Live the questions and some day you will live along into the answers."
Rainer Marie Rilke

Atkins since 2003
5'8" 206.4/197/175
64-3/4 years young