Oh Peg!! I have SOOOOOOOO been there. I was never a hoard-eater before I went low carb. part of my 'justification mentality' is - "oh well, I blew it with that one thing so I might as well blow the day." Which is terrible thinking! My DH even mentioned to me the other day that it was so uncharacteristic of me to really go off the deep end when I cheat. And you are so right - I always feel just terrible later - bloated, grumpy, the whole works. I am going to do the research on line regarding CAD (I can't really get the books since we are out here in the black hole) and maybe it is something you and I can do together - sort of a mini challenge. I don't know but I thought I'd give it a try.

Elyssa... I was VERY psyched to see your numbers!
Particularly after reading that you had been at (was it?) 144 for a very long time. This is how I lose (Ha! WHEN I lose...) nothing forever and then a string of pounds gone - I do firmly believe that the body holds on to the damned things until it just can't any longer. And it seems that getting the protein levels in control has really helped - this is just great news!

Law - it is just great that people 'notice' you are slimmer - and remember that just because the pounds are there doesn't mean the inches are - so you probably ARE slimmer - even though the weight is still hovering at 222. One would think that a ten pound loss on someone who only had ten to lose would be more noticeable but I'm not sure it really is. In fact, I'd be willing to bet it has a lot to do with clothing choices, inches gone, etc.. so that regardless of how much you feel you need to lose - any loss can be noticeable!

Well guys... I weighed in at 146 yesterday and am back to the size 12s - a little loose but the only 10s I have are very worn (one pair with big holes in the knees - I look like a 40 year old trying to get away with the punk look, ugh) and so I can't really leave the house with them on. I didn't think that the slippage would result in such a gain and I am hoping that part of this is water retention. Yesterday and today (so far) have been good and we don't have any dinner plans (with company) until Friday so hopefully I'll get a chance to take this off.

Judy, I'm looking into CAD today - I have working to a deadline last 3-4 days so that has been my focus.

I did put in a good amount of time in the (new!) garden this Sunday and am stiff and sore - but happy to have had a little exercise!

Hugs,
Rachel
165/144/128
Haec trutina errat. (Latin for,"There is something wrong with this scale".)

Hey all ... just a quick track post since I really need to do this...

I didn't track on Monday but ate very well (on plan)... Tuesday's numbers:

Calories: 1128
Fat: 90 (75%)
Carbs: 38-15=23 (9%)
Protein: 46 (17%)
Water: 132 oz (a good water day!)

Hugs,
Rachel
165/144/128
Haec trutina errat. (Latin for,"There is something wrong with this scale".)

Tuesday:
Total: 1346
Fat: 97 67%
Carbs: 35 5%
Fiber: 17
Protein: 89 27%

Wednesday:
Total: 1128
Fat: 71 56%
Carbs: 35 11%
Fiber: 3
Protein: 91 32%

weight: 141

220/142/135
7 to go!

Today....
Weight: 138 -- I jinxed myself when I changed the sig line.
Calories: 1342
Fat:95(67%)
Carbs: 73-26= 47 net(15%)
Protein:59(18%)
Water: not even close to enough--- again

Four day weekend!! Looking forward to Friday and Monday!

Judy

180/138/135-138
"Even if at first you do succeed, you still have to work hard to stay there." -- Richard C. Miller

Hi all... Elyssa, how do you stay at such good calorie numbers? That's the figure that always gets a litle out of hand for me! I am so happy every time I see your weight - you are just so close and you have come so far! Can I ask when you started this plan?

Judy... a four-day weekend, what a luxury! Enjoy it!!

I am all over the board it seems... weighed in this am at 143. Likely the two vermouths I had last night << blush, blush >> Here are Wednesday's numbers:

Calories: 1327
Fat: 88 (60%)
Carbs: 41-13=28 (8%) too high!
Protein: 59 (18%)
Alcohol: 27 (14%)
Water: 96 oz. [...not too bad considering]

Judy... I wanted to mention that I have spent some time over the last two days exploring everything I could about CAD/CALP and I have decided that I'm not going to follow it. I don't have the hunger between meals, I don't crave carbs, and I'm not very keen about a Reward Meal. My issues are those two I've discussed: social situations during which I must eat things that are way off plan, and "eat a cookie - eat the whole cake". I was at a (local) friend's house on Monday late morning for tea and she served sweets, I smiled and told her that I really couldn't have sugars that I found that they made me ill.

She was very sympathetic and encouraged me to eat instead a sort of spinach pie thing her mother had made. It was a tiny wedge and yes, it was made with whole wheat flour but it was a fine crusted - unleavened (like pita bread) with the ground beef and spinach and onion mixture inside. I realized that I shouldn't eat that either but I was way happier with the bread carbs than the sugar carbs - in large part because I was eating them together with protein and vegetable matter as required in CAD.

Even though I am not going to follow CAD/CALP I DO very much like the principal that when you eat carbs you must have another 1/3 of protein and 1/3 of vegetable matter. PLUS I realized that I was MUCH less likely to want more after eating the bread carbs. When I take in any sugars I seem to really lose it, but not so with the bread carbs. Frankly, the Georgians eat very healthily and there is almost always a fairly unsweet dessert option offered.

Anyway, it was very interesting reading and I considered it seriously. I want to thank you so much for suggesting that I research it - you are such a tremendous source of knowledge and support - I am so grateful!

Hugs,
Rachel
165/144/128
Haec trutina errat. (Latin for,"There is something wrong with this scale".)

Hi All:

Pardon me while I lumber in (burp!, oh, excuse me!) Last night was one of "those" dinners ~ you know the ones where you pretty much have to eat what the hostess serves. That made two in one week! I've gained five pounds since last week. I feel like the Pillsbury dougboy, though a quick check in the mirror doesn't support that feeling. (Thank God for a healing body image!)

Rachel: I have to agree with you. I, too, researched CAD/CALP and have decided not to do it. I found the idea of a "reward" meal pretty scary. For me, the issue doesn't seem so much needing a reward, but staying away from the sweets. Like you, I seem to be set offr by the taste of sweets and the cravings are just fierce.

I remember a thread a while back where Law1 and us discussed the "switch" that seems to go off in one's mind/heart that allows one to skip the "bad" stuff and stay with the program. I'm very afraid that the "switch" has been turned off in me and I simply can't control the choices. Sheesh! I don't even like writing that. Control is a BIG issue with me. (Surprised?) Of course, it is with most addicts. I KNOW that the key is "surrender." I suppose that I need to ponder that for a while.

Meanwhile, I brought my lunch today. LC all the way. Bkfast was lc. Middle of the am and I find myself hungry even tho I ate a hearty bkfast. Those feelings scare me too.

Well, that's enough whine with my morning. I'm sure that it's enough for you too! Have a good day all.

Elyssa, you are awesome! Judy, you are too!
Peace, Peg
1/1/03
205/178!/165
5'8"

[This message was edited by pegster on 02-12-04 at 09:08 AM.]

I'm not blowing you guys off -- I'm just pooped and ready for the long weekend.

Today I had to make a quick roundtrip to a city about 75 miles from here --- for a Dr.'s appt. All the doctors in our county have broken with the major insurance company for all the schools and big industry. The doctors in nearby cities that will take the insurance are no longer taking new patients because of the influx of new patients from here. The good part of this trip was the I got to see DD for a few minutes between my appt and when she had to go to work.

Tomrrow I'll tell you my impression of CAD and why I chose not to go that way.

Weight: 137.5
Calories: 1326
Fat:87(59%)
Carbs: 79-19= 60 net(18%)
Protein:79(24%)
Water: water??? I had about 32 ounces of diet soft drink........

Judy

180/138/135-138
"Even if at first you do succeed, you still have to work hard to stay there." -- Richard C. Miller

Hi all!! Just a quick drop in to post Thursday's numbers and tell you that I weighed in at 141.5 this am. { I love this little guy, he so aptly expressed - "yoo-hoo!")

I'm on a roll and I just need to stay away from the temptations. I have been making sugar-free jellos to have in the fridge after meals and that is helping considerably (who would have thunk it?) to stem the desire for a piece of chocolate after dinner. I am also rationing the few dark chocolate Pure Delite bars I brought out here - a third at a time - it's just enough to stem the crave without shaking up the numbers.

Peg, I hear you about the 'switch'. I was going through a period when I KNOW I did not have that low carb 'high' and was sucumbing to things I usually did not drop to. Was it TOM? Was it post holiday blahs? Was it my own silly rationalizing brain? Who knows... but I am feeling really good about this week's losses (which I consider part of the 'return to the real bottom weight' on 138. I'm not going to be really excited until I start to get below that number since that's the last place I stopped).

I know I'm in a good place - even though my scale does not match the jean sizes... that will come.

We have guests for dinner tonight but I am making a dessert that I am not keen to eat - PLUS, I have a date at the sulphur baths in Old Town with a group of friends (yes, all women) tomorrow at 11am so you can bet that I am NOT indulging at ALL tonight (yes we'll all be nekid as jaybirds).... I want that belly as flat as possible without having to spend the hour sucking in my breath every time I step out of the bath. LoL!!

So here are yesterday's numbers:

calories: 1335
fat: 101 (68%)
carbs: 30-2=28 (8%) a little high, I know - I'm trying to stay at about 25 (post induction)
protein: 77 (23%)
Water: 88 oz.

I wish you ALL a fantastic weekend and hang in there with the eating thing!

Hugs,
Rachel
165/144/128
Haec trutina errat. (Latin for,"There is something wrong with this scale".)

Congratulations Rachel! I know how excited you are -- I've been there. You can do it. Pretty soon you will be in the 130's with me. Peg, your switch will kick in again. It's not shorted out.

Yesterday at the doctor's office, I was 142 fully clothed. I think I'm going to try to keep moving toward that 135 mark. Just for the h*** of it, I would like the scales to be under 140 with my clothes on. My guess is that 135 should just about do it.

OK, as promised I'll give you my take on CAD. I tried it some time back (4 years ago maybe??). I found that if I ate a "reward" meal and allowed a larger % Carbs, that I never got control of the cravings and that it was just too easy to say that lunch was the RM one day and dinner the next. Which of course led to both lunch and dinner on other days. I also have discovered that allowing a small # of carbs throughout the day instead of holding everything for one daily dose works better for me -- just a personal tolerance thing, I guess. However, I do like the theory of the one hour RM. It seems to me that if you are stuck in a situation where you cannot control what is served then limiting it to one one hour period in the day could be useful. I haven't tried it, but think that it could have useful implications for maintenance.

Today is a holiday -- that's a good thing for the mind, but not always a good thing for the scales. I tend to play in the kitchen too much. I was back to 137 this morning. Let's see what Tuesday morning looks like after four days off.

Judy

180/138/135-138
"Even if at first you do succeed, you still have to work hard to stay there." -- Richard C. Miller

Tracking for today???

Yeah right......That lasted until about noon. Then there was the SF Hot Chocolate, and the Russell Stover pecan cluster, and the Mexican Casserole (which I picked the Fritos out of) and ........

Judy

180/138/135-138
"Even if at first you do succeed, you still have to work hard to stay there." -- Richard C. Miller

Obviously we all took a holiday this weekend.... No numbers for me. I hope you all were successful in losing/maintaining since your last posts.

Judy

180/137-138(still a "work in progress")/135-138
"Even if at first you do succeed, you still have to work hard to stay there." -- Richard C. Miller

Sunday:
Total: 1260
Fat: 87 63%
Carbs: 60 17%
Fiber: 7
Protein: 62 20%

Monday:
Total: 1317
Fat: 84 58%
Carbs: 75 20%
Fiber: 12
Protein: 72 22%

I'll post more later when I have the time.

220/142/135
7 to go!

Geez, Elyssa! You're going to get there before me! Of course it would help if I buckled down and actually DID the program! I'm still around.

Did well over the weekend except for chocolate on Valentines Day. DD was here for the weekend with her new bf and my 3 gkids. This is the one I wrote about during the Fall. Things were good between us. I was cautiously optimistic. She seemed much more like the girl that I raised. (She is 34 and not a girl now!) the kids were wonderful and loving. I just love being around them. DD and they live in PA. She's still looking for a job. Is suing the college for severance. It seems fairly positive.

See ya later!
Peace, Peg
1/1/03
205/175/165
5'8"

Peg,
Go to the top of this page and click on My Space. Drop down to private topics. I sent you a message about the pictures and avetar.

Today's numbers for me -- HIGH! But, boy those ribs were good.

Weight: 137.5
Calories: 1645
Fat:101(55%)
Carbs: 85-21= 64 net(16%)
Protein:118(29%)
Water: too little

Tomorrow we are having a Black History month celebration at lunch -- you know social studies teachers, they have to celebrate everything. Good southern Black food is wonderful, but certainly isn't low carb. Looks like I'll be picking around the pickins.

Judy

180/137-138(still a "work in progress")/135-138
"Even if at first you do succeed, you still have to work hard to stay there." -- Richard C. Miller

Hi all! I can't believe it's been five days since I've checked in here... It's been four days since I've tracked - Japanese food, a picnic, finished the last of the After Eight mints (grrrrr).... and popcorn last night. I am on track today, and even though I have five straight days of socializing coming up (tonight through Sunday night)... they will all be control'able' situations and since I'm back up a few pounds from 141.5 - 145... I am motivated to get back on track.

Judy, I agree with your overall considerations of CAD/CALP.... I guess I don't have the constitutional make-up for the reward meal - I admit that part of that is the low carb 'high' I have (more energy) when I eat the low carbs and the right low carbs (veggies). I am much more likely to be successful if I am not trying to figure out if I have the right ratios in a given meal.

Peg... sounds like things are going quite well with DD both in terms of your relationship and in terms of her getting what is rightfully hers from her former employer - good for you and good for her!!

Elyssa... you have been so GOOD!! I read your numbers and I am just so encouraged for you - you are getting very close. I know that the last few pounds are the real sticklers but you are really attacking them head-on, I am so impressed!

Ok my dears... my intention is to track today and the rest of the week - which will help keep me focused.

Hugs,
Rachel
165/144/128
Haec trutina errat. (Latin for,"There is something wrong with this scale".)