I saw in another post that the best fats and oils for cooking were:

Lard
Coconut oil
Butter
Olive oil
Peanut oil

But, is there anything wrong with vegetable oil? My bottle of Crisco brand Vegetable oil (soybean oil) says no trans-fats. Is that OK too, or am I missing something due to the fact that it's soybean oil?

Thanks!

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Mada
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I'd be interested to know this myself...I just bought some canola oil for deep frying. (We use olive oil for sauteing.) I did a search on canola oil and there appears to be alot of controversey surrounding this oil. I am so sick of all the debates over food!

Since I trust the experience and judgment of my fellow lowcarbers, I will wait to see what information this thread brings.

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i use almost 97 % all the time olive oil. the health benifits are excelent . On occasions i use vegtable oil for somethings .. I am not sure the issue w/ the difrent oils... for some reason i just cant bring my self to useing Lard.

I also have a question... that butter flavord Crisco.. any uses for it or shall i toss it in the garbage.. (bought it last year for cookies... never did use it but i opend it... )

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I use butter flavored Crisco all the time, but then I'm one of the weirdos who don't worry about trans fats.

Margarine, was invented in France in 1869, and has been widely used in Europe ever since. It didn't really become popular in the US until the 1920's during World War I, when the country began to experience a fat shortage and a sharp increase in margarine consumption. By the 1950's more people used margarine than butter, which still holds true today.

All this time-almost 150 years of humans eating margarine our life expectancy has gradually increased from 40.49 years for a man born in 1860 to 77.91 years for a man born in 2003.

Now, if I just had to have something to worry about, I'd wonder what these new artificial sweeteners were doing to my system. Who knows, 150 years from now people may look back on us and say what in the devil where these people thinking.

http://www.westonaprice.org/know_you...your_fats.html read that article and follow the links. It was quite eye-opening to me...

In fact, it was life changing. I noticed a dramatic improvement in my health when I switched from refined cooking oils to traditional fats.

HTH

Stick with lard, butter and olive oil. Any type of refined cooking oil is not a good thing.

Wow Sharron! That's quite the site! I'm only 1 article in... gonna have to save that reading for when DS is in bed for the night. Looks very informative - thanks for sharing!

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Yes, it is. I spent 3 whole days reading it when I was first introduced to it! Especially noteworthy is the article "Nasty, brutish, short."

I don't go for all the anti-soy they preach though. I don't use a lot of soy, don't get me wrong, but when I was first reading this I asked my doctor (2 of them now) who is (are) a naturopath (ND). He said, "there is a lot of conflicting information on soy. Frankly, occasional use isn't going to be a problem. The amounts of soy they use in those studies is very large and no person would ever ingest that much." So, that is what I've done. I only use it very rarely and it has never caused me any problems. (And if you've followed my story at all, plenty of things do!)

Happy reading

LOL

Dan! The site has you listed as a newbie

The only person who has been on this site any longer is Mrs. Webmaster herself!!!

I don't see the article "nasty, brutish, short." Am I not looking in the right place? Or is it a link within an article?

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Mada
221.6/193.8 <--- ONEderland! /sz 8

http://www.westonaprice.org/traditio...nal_diets.html

Sorry, their website is difficult to navigate. The "home" button is a tiny text link on the bottom of the page! That is the link to the traditional diets page. They've added a bunch of new links since I was here last. The article is amongst them

Found it! Thank you.

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221.6/193.8 <--- ONEderland! /sz 8

Betty -

I REALLY have to disagree with you on the butter issue. Margarine is NOT a good thing in my opinion and I think it's quite sad that it outpaces butter sales 2 to 1.

Life expectancy is up IN SPITE of using margarine, not because of it. Medical advances, etc. are so far beyond what they were in the mid 19th century that it is only natural we would be living longer. In those days, simple ailments like an infected toenail would grow out of hand and a person would possibly die from it. We don't die from things like that these days.

Sharron -

I agree with you on the soy thing. Personally, I don't like the taste and I try to avoid it as much as possible but I'm not a loonie about it. A little soy (and trans fat) certainly seeps into my food intake but I try to keep it at the minimum as much as possible.

Mada -

I TRULY recommend you throwing out that oil. I recently ran out of coconut oil and DH wanted a small bowl of popcorn so I used some canola oil I had on hand. Oh my God! It was the most amazing way to proove to myself why I SHOULD NOT be eating canola oil. As the oil was heating up and popping the corn, i smelled a strange fishy smell.

Then, as he was eating it, he asked if I did something different as it didn't taste right. So, I tasted it too and it was terrible. The oil is very fragile and gets heat damaged very easily. Well, that's what had happened. It spoiled right before our eyes as it was heating and popping the corn.

We're used to popcorn popped in coconut oil which is one of God's gift to men. To try with the canola oil was like NIGHT AND DAY. We threw out the popcorn and threw out the rest of the oil.

I will never buy canola oil again and I will certainly not buy soybean oil.

Once you get used to eating truly natural, HIGH QUALITY foods, it's difficult to eat anything else.

Please toss it and buy some good fats/oils!

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MarcieLynn, I agree with you 100% when it comes to the margerine v. butter issue. Just for fun I did a search on the history of margerine and came up with this link:

http://www.margarine.org/historyofmargarine.html

The opening statement is so egegious that I wonder how they get away with it. In my opinion, our life expectancies have gone up because we no longer die as we once did from communicatable diseases and infections. Both my mom and dad had a sibling die in childhood from scarlet fever and whooping cough respectively. IHO more people have heart disease today than a hundred years ago because we live long enough to develop it. Let's not kid ourselves, heart disease rates are not declining, but the death rate has been slowed due to medical developments in dealing with it. This is a subject that greatly interests me because heart disease runs in my dad's side of the family.

Betty, I'm with you on the artificial sweeteners issue. In the back of my mind, I'm always wondering...

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I know that the trans-fat issue has been discussed ad nauseum, but I don't think we can stress enough how serious it is. I honestly believe that trans-fats are among the most unhealthy things you can eat, and everything I read about it backs this up. I agree, Marcie, that sometimes all you can do is keep them to a minimum, because their use is so rampant in our food supply. This article, though long, has some really interesting information on the effects of margarine, oils and trans-fats.

Are artificial sweeteners harmful, as well? That could very well be; I avoid Nutrasweet and sugar alcohols, because the first gives me migraines, and the second give me other, er, problems. I do use Splenda, but I keep it to a minimum. I try to use stevia as much as possible, mostly because it is a more natural choice. And I read everything I can find on the foods I eat and the products I use, so that I can make informed, healthy choices.

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