Hi Everyone,

It is strange seeing us listed as Newbies isn't it? but at lease Andrea got us back up and running again.....well done Andrea.

Has anyone read the above book? It is really informative and it allows you 60 grams of carbs a day.....plus a ½ piece of buttered toast with your eggs etc. for breakfast.....also an orange with your lunch....it is a much more varied diet as long as you stay within the 60 grams a day.

The write-up for the book is very good, which is why I bought it, and for all the people from the UK out there, it is written by an English guy named Barry Groves.....so the food is totally English and he gives some lovely recipes.....it is really hard in the UK to get decent recipes for the limited food that we can get for LC over here.

This time my hubbie, Colin, is going to join me on LC.....I nearly died when he said that he could live with this plan....as he has a heart condition I have been trying to get him to lose weight for years but he is eating very low fat, as advised by his heart specialist, and just keeps getting bigger an bigger.

Tomorrow we are both going to weigh and measure ourselves and start our day with egg and bacon and maybe the ½ slice of toast and butter.....then we will go shopping and get all the things that we need to live with for the rest of the week.

This time it is going to work for me because I shall have Colin eating the same way, it will make it soooo much easier.

I will let you know how we are doing and I would love to hear form anyone on this plan or who has read the book.

I hope everyone is well and manages to find their way back to these forums.

Take care,
love Louloo. x

I don't know why the smilies didn't come out, any ideas anyone?
love Louloo. x

loulou,

i'm sorry, i've not read the book. i've seen advertisements for it, though.

do keep us posted

Blessings!
Sharron
Author of "Low Carb Cooking at Sharron's Place," and "Extreme Lo-Carb Cuisine" to be released in December

www.thelowcarbcook.com

Sorry Louloo, I haven't read it either!

How are you doing, anyway?

Dryad

Hi Sharron and Dryad,

It's nice to see you back here again....I hope you are both doing ok with your own LC plan.

As I said, my hubbie started this with me today and we have had some lovely food and neither of us feel hungry.

I am going to leave the bread alone, to start with anyway, because I know that once I start on bread I will want more and more, LOL

Keep your fingers crossed for us that it works out, it sounds as though it is really the plan for me.

I am having health problems again Dryad, but I hope after all the tests results come back and I see the specialist again in October, then I may get some help and some idea of what is causing my swollen and numb feet. Apart from that I am still alive, I woke up this morning so it can't all be bad, LOL

I hope you are both keeping well....it's ages since I have seen a post from you Dryad....how are you, what have you been up to?????

Please keep in touch and take care, that goes for you too Sharron.

Bye for now,

love Louloo. x

HI,

I have just realised that I have posted this topic in the wrong place, so sorry to everyone in Paleo.

Actually we are doing very well with this plan and have already lost some weight. My hubbie is going to lose really quickly on this and he loves LC now.......I just hope that I am right enouraging him to eat eggs with a heart problem.

Bye for now,

love Louloo. x

Hi Louloo, so nice to hear from you and to read that hubbie too is now following LC (you wily woman ya).......and loving it.......and loving the weight losses that DEFINITELY follow too. So WOO-HOO to you both. I'm looking foreward to hearing all about the losses and better health effects as a result and if Caveman is good enuff for Kefir then I guess that surely those of us following the paleolithic (ish) way may very well learn a thing or two that may help us stick with our own plans (modify perhaps? in harder times etc etc) if you (and others?) continue to post here. I hope that The Grovesy Way sees you enjoying better health.

On hindsight I agree that EFGT is THE LC WOL for you. Barry Groves was the 1st author I read on LC when i was thinking of changing over from LF but I was'nt impressed at the time as it reminded me too much of the diets my mum forced me on in the 60's when I was a wee bairn. Because I cannot as much as TASTE forbidden fruit without going off on one, its not my bag, BUT ITS SO VERY MUCH YOURS I think, as you are'nt a big eater and enjoy your little bits of fruit and the odd slices of bread, and slivers of cake (weras I'm more of the ilk of the "nice bread, butter the loaf" "mmmmm nice cake, get your own" so I have to be strict with myself (but after 3 days of following LC to a T I made the mistake of eating 200g of frozen berries (with the odd grape and cherry in it) and it sent me into a craving mania which I'm sad to say I succumbed to. I'm working on my hypoglycemia at the moment after reading The South Beach Diet which I also don't particularly like (along with Atkins) but they both make some excellent points. I'm so glad that you have finally found the WOE for you that may well become both your WOL and bully for hubby for trying a different track to become healthier too. I'm so glad you changed trackto a healthier LC way.

Keep it happening sis

Lots of love
J
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I'm not fat, I've just got inflamed ribs!!!

Hi Jenny,

It's lovely to hear from you, I have posted this topic in the wrong place, so I don't suppose I am very popular at the moment......I don't know what I did wrong, but it's too late to change it now.

We are doing well on this plan but I still have not lost any weight, I know it is harder for me with all the drugs and steroids etc, but I feel better in myself and I am enjoying the bit of toast and butter for breakfast and the ½ orange after my lunch.....so that's something I suppose.

Colin is losing steadily, not vast amounts but a lot more than when he was eating low fat....he has a lot more energy as well, I can't get him to sit down and relax. Today he has cleaned all my windows, cleaned the car, cut the grass, he just goes on and on and on.....it's amazing,I used to have trouble getting him out of bed in the mornings, LOL

What's happening with you then Jenny? Have you changed your plan.....what are you following now.....don't give up on us, you will get there in the end....think of Colin, I never thought he would like LC and stick to it as well, if he can do it, anyone can, LOL

Anyway, I do hope to hear from you again. I don't know what has happened to Dryad, she has gone very quiet lately.

Take care,
love Louloo. x

My personal experience has been when my cholesterol was off (I had some cloggin in my main arteries in my neck) and I was doing a low carb low fat combination thing It didn't work. I added the eggs, sourcream and such back into my diet and my cholesterol numbers are fabulous now. No more funny heart flutters. Your husband's cardiologist sounds like he is out of sink with the newest diet recommendations. VERY SCARY! I have found low fat to be the opposite of what the heart needs.

I have to have my blood work done every 2 months. So after one particular struggle with eating right I decided to add the fat back into my diet. I looked at the fats Adkins recommended and my Doctor had given me some articles on health fats. My cholestrol improved tremendously! I think fat adds satisfaction to the diet and needs to be added back in carefully. I added eggs back into my diet, bacon, mayo (real stuff no fat free or low fat), salad dressings (ooh looked so hard for a low carb one and found blue cheese is a good choice if caesar is not available) Not so much bacon (most is cured with sugar and sugar in the morning sets me off. Can't do bread at any time but lunch for the most part. No starches at dinner. My Doctor told me that starches actually release a hormone that will stimulate the appetite. Guess that why you can't eat just one potatoe chip and not want more and more. Hang in there.

Well, I have just had a phone call from my doctor about the blood tests done last week. She took my cholesterol before I started eating LC in January and then repeated them last week......the cholesterol has risen to dangerous levels and she wants me to go back and discuss the problem.

I haven't made the appointment yet but it looks as though I am going to be advised yet again to eat low fat.

I have never had a problem with high cholesterol before trying LC so I still don't really know what to do. I don't like to go against the conventional methods although I have proved to myself that LC works for me.

Any views or comments greatfully received.

Thanks.

love Louloo. x

Which cholesterol is high/low? What are your numbers and what fats are you eating? My HDL just came back too low again, need to eat more fish and walnuts. I made the biggest difference by adding some walking to my plan in cholestrol numbers. Hiked one time (boy that made me sore) I have strained both tendons in my feet now so exercise is minimal at best.

Don't give up. I too have one of those plans that allows a little bit of bread and I feel like such the minority in here.

I do eat ALOT of eggs. But my breakfast choices are pretty limited.

Love to hear more from you, to compare notes mostly.

Hi,

It is nice to hear from you. To be honest I have not yet made the appointment to see my doctor, so I haven't had the results of my cholesterol. I have another hospital test for an echocardiogram tomorrow and then I go back to the specialist on Thursday for all my results...this is in relation to the COPD.

I have so many other problems that prevent me from walking and exercising properly, that food has taken second place at the moment. I haven't put on any weight and I haven't lost any either.

I am eating porridge for breakfast and I eat a small amount of brown bread and a little bit of fruit daily......I have all the symptoms of IBS back again, worse than ever, but I am not changing my eating plan again at the moment until my health problems are sorted out a bit.

Tell me a bit about your eating plan and we will see if we are on a par......as you say, it will be nice to compare notes.

Take care,
love Louloo. x

My Doctor has taken the Low Carb plans and put them together to assist with the management of blood sugar. The "rules" are as follows. 1. No more than 2 slices of bread a day. Find the lowest carb one you can. Don't eat any cereal except puffed wheat or rice and count it as one of your breads for the day. No grapes, no dried fruits or anything that concentrates the sugar. Eat lots of veggies, Fish, fish Fish and more fish, pork, and chicken. Beef is ok once in a while. Don't fry your meat, bake, broil or steam it. No snacks. If you want a piece of fruit, have it with the meal not as a snack. Beans and legumes have high fiber and will not set the blood sugar off but use carefully in your diet. Drink lots of water, exercise some daily. (it has a MAJOR impact on the good cholesterol) Be consistent with exercise, it helps manage the triglycerides. Do some today and just do better tomarrow. (I have paraphrased it mostly)

No cake, cookies, pasteries or anything made with white flour. No chips, popcorn etc. SF stuff is ok but use sparingly. Eat food as close to it's natural form as you prefer. That's it in a nutshell. She monitors my blood work every 2 months and has prescribed Avandia as it will increase the number of cells in the pancreas that are sensitive to sugar. She added welbutrin at my last visit because there is something that works with this drug that increases a person's satisfaction. In diet and in smoking.

I have some female issues that cause hormonal surges at TOM that gives me PMDD. I am supposed to be using Welbutrin for that too. I haven't needed it for almost a year now but as my female stuff gets progressively worse, the more I have to deal with the symptoms or schedule the hysterectomy.

Note: I have been out of town and I am only back for a couple of days before being gone for another week. I look forward to hearing how you are doing.

Hello again LevisMom, it's nice to hear from you. Your doctor sounds great, what good help you have received, I hope I get as much when I go back on Monday to see mine.

What about cheese and nuts, are you allowed any of that.....I just love cheese and as long as I can have some of that every day I can manage.......I love fish and a little fruit with your meals is good too.

Sorry about all your other troubles. I had a hysterectomy when I was 29, I was the youngest in the ward at the time, it is a long, long time ago now, but I never regreted it.

I saw the specialist today and there is no help with the swelling in my legs and feet or the numbness, it is possibly the inhallers and the drugs that I have to take, so I have to see the doc to start trial and error with new ones. I go back to see him in a few weeks because he was unhappy with my breathing tests. By then the new tablets and inhalers should have kicked in and there MAY be an improvement......also I have to ask my own doctor about my cholesterol and see what she has to say on that topic.

I will let you know when you get back. Take care,
love Louloo. x

I will keep you in my prayers. I hope the doctors work well with you. My experience has been that when one doctor has tried for a while and your health has not improved it is time for new blood via a new doctor or specialist.(hope there are choices where you area at) Some docs don't keep up well on the latest techniques. I have had a couple that if I had stayed with their advice, I'd be in a world of hurt. (per new docs report)
I hope they give you a LC diet plan that will work with all the other medications that you are on. Steriods? Breathing problems? Eating mostly meat and veggies has got to be good for you no matter what. (my personal opinion) Refresh my memory on your health issues please?
Tell me about your LC plan if they have allowed it yet or did they pull you off of it?

Yes, cheese but use carefully. Nuts only ALmonds and walnuts. Peanuts are ok but use almonds or walnuts first. Walnuts have Omega 3 I am told.
Connie AKA Levi's Mom

[This message was edited by LevisMom on 10-09-03 at 09:30 PM.]