The CALP woe is great for me since it allows me to have some carbs in a controlled manner in the RM. It's really nearly eliminated my carb cravings. In fact, after 3 weeks, I find I often don't WANT any carbs in my RM. I haven't had a real RM in about 3 days now and wonder if it will be a problem to add them back in?

Laly
LC/CALP 1/17/04
216/202/140 2/6/04

It's a good idea to start having balanced RM's again. The Heller's want you to enjoy your meals and not feel deprived, which is more likely to keep you on this WOE.

You could always try low glycemic carbs, to reduce the impact to begin with. Here is a link the glycemic impact of many foods

http://www.prevention.com/cda/featur...1-5158,00.html

Ilse

380/304.6(WW)/221(current)/154
5'7"
"It's kind of fun to do the impossible"
Walt Disney


This is what a kokle actually looks like
(pronounced "kwok-l-eh)

I agree--the common wisdom is that if you don't keep your RMs balanced, you will want a carb binge before long--i also found that I didnt lose weight without some carbs--The no hunger/craving thing is FABULOUS tho isnt it? Even with atkins I didnt have this--In addition, I don't think i have ever in my life eaten only 3 times a day with no snacks--cutting out the Artifical Sweeteners really really helped--

Ouis

Thanks, Ilse and Ouis. I've been reading some of the other boards that focus on Atkins and was starting to react by not having RM's, even though I know CALP is best for me. I've had more balanced RM's for two nights now, and have still lost another pound according to the scales this morning. My "averaging" spreadsheet is at work, so I'm not sure what my average loss for the week will be, but I know it will be something when I check on Tuesday.

It's great to have the support of others on the plan (even though I know Ilsa's doing something else now).

Laly
LC/CALP 1/17/04
216/202/140 2/6/04

Okay... so I"m an Atkins follower.... but I have no idea what RM's are! Can someone please tell me!?!?!?
I've done lots of research, but I'm just unfamiliar with the abbreviation!

MeganRose LC WOL restart 2/13/04
240/228/145 ~83 lbs to go!
St Patty's Day Challenge
228/228/208 ~20 lbs to go!
"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step" -Confucious

MeganRose,

RMs (Reward Meals) are part of the CAD and CALP plans. They are not part of Atkins. Basically with CAD and CALP you eat protein and LC veggies for 2 meals and your third meal is your RM. RMs are to be balanced (visually) with 1/3 protein, 1/3 LC veggies and 1/3 carbs, and are to last no more than 60 minutes.

For more info, see the sticky "CALP plan reviewed" in this forum. This forum is for people following the CAD and CALP plans.

HTH,

Debby

206.5/159.5/140?130?
CALP 1/12-10/9/03 & 11/26/03 on
(Atkins 10/10-11/25/03)

I knew that Atkins didn't have them, but thanks for clarifying what they really were! Have a great day!

MeganRose LC WOL restart 2/13/04
240/228/145 ~83 lbs to go!
St Patty's Day Challenge
228/228/208 ~20 lbs to go!
SIZE 12 Challenge!
(April 1 2004)~3 Sizes to go!
"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step" -Confucious

Debby! How are you doing? This forum has been kind of stagnant lately. I'm still here plugging away. 11 pounds gone since January 5th. Not huge, but I'm doing it and I'm happy.

Let us know how you are.
Karen

Karen,

Thanks for asking! Congrats on the 11 pounds! I've been reading but not posting lately because I've been off-plan. It started at Thanksgiving when I (theoretically) switched back to CALP from my 6-week stint on Atkins. Never really got back on CALP. Gained just a few pounds over the holidays and have been maintaining (but eating horribly!). Have made several attempts and not stuck with it.

BUT, yesterday was the day! It was a tough day, and I probably didn't eat the best (I'll be posting it in my journal after I'm done with this post, if you care to know). My weight was only down a 1/2 pound this morning... a little discouraging because I was hoping that what I'd gained was water weight and would come off quickly. But, I also feel like I'm retaining water today (wedding ring is tight)... probably due to too much salt yesterday.

I've read your journal a couple of times. Looks like CALP is working out for you. I'm glad. It's really a simple EP (eating plan)... don't know why I get off-track. (actually, it's partly due to the way my skinny DH eats, but that's no excuse!)

I've noticed that this forum has been kindof dead lately. Hopefully we can spice it up! People tend to come for a bit and then go away. Just not as many people doing CALP, so we don't have as many (actually, hardly any) 'regulars' like the Atkins forums. Sometimes I wonder if it's because this EP is easier/simpler so people don't need as much support. Who knows?

Anyway, better go. Have a great day!

Oh... just remembered that I read about your Cauliflower soup... sounds interesting... can you give me some more detail on how you made it (measurements, cooking time, etc.)? I'm more of a recipe cook. Thanks!

Debby

206.5/159.9/140?130?
CALP 1/12-10/9/03 & 2/18/04 on
(Atkins 10/10-11/25/03)

Hi Debby,

I'm sure you'll get back on track soon. I have told myself, because I have so much to lose that I can't quit and gain this weight back. I saw a video of myself back in 1999 at my heaviest and I looked awful! I can't believe I let myself go like that. Thing is, I knew I was way too overweight but didn't do a thing about it. My sister told me I now look like 1/2 the person that was in that video. Nice compliment coming from her.

I have figured out eating this way that I can't eat too much salt in 1 day. Chicken wings have become my enemy. I've also decided that I'm not going to eat anything with sugar alcohols anymore. Lately the gas and bloating from it have escalated. If I want something sweet for my carb at night I'm just going to eat the real thing. Not a ton of it, but something to satisfy me.

My soup is so easy to do. I have to cut back a little on it though, too much gas from the veggies

Put 1 1/2 cups of chicken broth in a pan, bring to a boil, add 1 bag frozen cauliflower (I tried it with broccoli and was good too).

Bring it to a boil then turn it down and simmer til it gets realllly soft. I then use a hand blender or you could put it into a regular blender and blend it smooth.

I added about 1/2 cup cheddar cheese (white) and some fresh bacon bits, salt to taste and about 2 TBSP heavy cream. You could use more cream if you wanted. It depends on how thick or thin you want the soup.

Simmer til it's good & hot. It's very tastey. Best way to get some veggies in!

Hope you like it if you try it.

Take care
Karen

Karen,

Thanks for the vote of confidence... and for the soup recipe! I'm anxious to try it. I haven't been a big fan of soups (or cauliflower) in the past, but I'm starting to like them more. Plus, it's good to have one on hand for when you're sick with a cold and such.

I know what you mean about the sugar alcohols. But, I never realized wings were salty. Just went and looked at my bottle of Franks and was appalled - 200mg of sodium in ONE TEASPOON. Yikes! Just fried up a big batch last night in my new deep fryer... they were/are SO good! Will have to be careful with them.

I'm trying to stay away from sweets at my RM, too. But, like you said, if I do have anything it will be REAL. It's nice to know I can have it if I want it.

Did good on plan yesterday and have done well so far today. Had a Moms & Tots meeting this morning... they always have a bunch of food - egg dishes, bagels, muffins, etc. - just made sure I ate a good breakfast before I went... then I'm fine.

Trying not to get discouraged over the fact that it's going to take awhile to get back to my lowest weight (since I started losing weight) which is 152. Figured it up this morning, even at a 1/2 pound a day (which is really pretty fast for me, especially since I'm having a hard time getting the exercise in) it will take 2 weeks. (sigh) ... just have to focus on the fact that at least I'm back on track and going in the right direction again. Plus, I have more energy at night... which is a good thing.

Congratulations to you on losing the weight you have so far... to elicit a complement like that (from your sister) shows that you've accomplished a lot so far. Good for you!

Take care and have a great weekend!

Debby

Hey Debby and Karen,

It's nice to see some activity on this list. I was so happy to find a CALP list, then no one posted to it.

Karen, thanks for the soup recipe. I used to make one from a vegetarian cookbook, but it's pretty high carb, with carrots, potatoes and buttermilk. It also had dill in it, which really livens it up. I may try yours with a bit of sour cream and dill added.

Debby, you'll get back on track. We'll help you. And y'all can help me. I got down to 168 on WW a couple of years ago, then carbed my way almost back to where I started. Now I'm struggling to get back below 200. I was at 200.5 this morning, so maybe soon . . . Do y'all weigh daily and average, like the Hellers suggest?

Laly
CALP 1/17/04
216/202/140 2/6/04

Laly,

Thanks for the encouragement! I am back on track and already down 3 pounds. My RM probably wasn't real balanced last night, but thankfully it didn't affect me on the scale this morning. I was down a pound. Woohoo!

I do weigh daily and enter my weight into a spreadsheet that calculates my 7-day average. It then charts both my actual and average weight. This has been really helpful to me. I do it even when I'm not on plan. If you want a copy of it, just PT me and let me know your email address. I don't mind sharing.

Weighing daily (even when not on plan) is what keeps me focused - a little jolt of reality. It helps because I know my weight fluctuates and if I only weighed weekly, then I might hit a day that's up and think I've not lost any weight. Averaging gives me a truer (is that a word?) picture.

I think what jolted me back on plan this time was seeing my weight go above 160. I know that I DO NOT want to regain the weight I've lost.

You're doing great with your weight loss! You'll be below 200 very soon, I'm sure.

BTW, the weight I post in my signature is my 7-day average. That's how much I rely on averaging. Also, I have a journal called Deb's Daily Diary if you're interested in what someone else on plan is eating.

Have a great weekend!

Debby

206.5/159.9/140?130?
CALP 1/12-10/9/03 & 2/18/04 on
(Atkins 10/10-11/25/03)

Hi Debby,
I weigh daily too (up a pound this am )and have a spreadsheet set up for both daily and weekly actual and average weights, with corresponding charts. I also have trends set up so I can see where I might be at 1, 2, or 3 pounds lost a week. Call me an Excel geek.

I'd like to see your diary. How do I get to it? I keep everything pretty faithfully in Fitday, but it's not public. I still have mental problems eating a balanced RM. I'm so happy to be craving-free and generally full and contented that I don't want to upset that. I also find that most of the high carb stuff just doesn't taste very good anymore.

Gotta run to the DD's soccer game, first of the season.

Laly
CALP 1/17/04
216/202/140 2/6/04

Laly,

Here's a link to it my diary. I just started it up again this past Wednesday. Don't know if it will be helpful to you or not. I don't know how long I'll keep doing it... just as long as it's helpful, I suppose... to me and perhaps others.

I used Fitday a bit when I was on Atkins... I just find it pretty time-intensive. Plus, on CALP I don't need all the details it provides. If/when I get pregnant again, I may start using it again. Who knows?

Good for you on not wanting the high carb stuff. I still like it. Plus, it's easier to cook for my skinny DH and 2-yr old DD when I allow carbs into the equation. I've always tended to make casseroles, and since DD was born I just LOVE my crockpot.

Hope the game went well.

Debby

206.5/159.9/140?130?
CALP 1/12-10/9/03 & 2/18/04 on
(Atkins 10/10-11/25/03)