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| Hi all, Back in August I started Atkins, but only lasted three weeks before I fell off. I've did Atkins successfully once in 2003, but succumbed to the holiday grazing at X-mas time. Using the past two times as learnings, I'm getting ready to jump in again. The first time I lost 40 lbs, so I consider that one a success, even though I've gained it all back :crying: . The second venture this past fall, I tracked what I ate religiously using the "FitDay" counter, but that was discouraging when the daily carbs were climbing well over 20 so I bailed. I was eating basically the same meals (if not better) than the first try, but the carb count (according to FitDay) was too high. How many of you have tried the Fitday counter and found it to be accurate? When I entered my meals I tried to be as precise as possible with the ingredients, so I was hoping it really was a good site to use. I think mentally I'm ready for it this time (which must be half the battle) and I'm committed to turning up the exercise this time as well, so I think, no I know, this is the time.
__________________ Ed Atkins-Started 01/08/05 330/330/250 6'6" |
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| Well welcome back to Atkins..... and congrats on the first time you lost weight... just remember that it's a lifestyle change and not a diet... that will really help change your thinking and help you succeed at losing and keeping the weight off. Really focus on changing you through process from "dieting" to "a lifestyle", that's what helped me the most. Read the book, get as much info on recipies and such from this website, and make sure you visit the boards often... it's a really supportive website. We are a big(getting smaller in size...lol) family with lots of advice and support to give. I might suggest visiting the journaling forum and starting your own blog... it reallyhelps to keep me on track(as well as many other people) and not to mention some of the veterans will stop in and give you feedback and advice. Fitday is a great asset, just really look at what they have listed, alot of times, prepared meals are different than what you actually ate. Good luck and hope to see you around! |
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| Im dont track or log, never have. Just try to keep a running total as i go. So far Ive done ok I think. I know when im getting sloppy and when Im doing well. Just dont have the time and patience to keep a log. Guess what, being mentally ready is 90 percent of the battle in my opinion. So you definetly are well on your way. Congratulations on making the step and good luck to lots of losses.
__________________ Started LC 1-10-04 302/199/160, 103lbs down, 39 to go, simply remarkable. Restart- 8-19-07 242/226/160 405 points to date ( HOLIDAY CHALLENGE ) |
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| Welcome aboard, Ed. When you do Fitday.com be sure to subtract the fiber count (posted in the above portion - not below the food list) from the carb count - this brings carbs to where they should be. I have found fitday to be reasonably accurate but time intensive. Megan Rose is right on target - I have had to change my thinking to way of eating (woe) for life rather than diet. For me it has been an uphill battle the past four months but I see the good in it. I seriously started this woe right after spraining my ankle in late August - took a good couple months to recover, then right after I was finally able to start exercising I got a bad flu / cold that lasted several weeks. I don't lose without exercise so I have been eating lc and been reasonably faithful to it since late August with no loss - but the good is that I have really made this my woe for life. Now that I can exercise I expect to see the scale drop and I am excited about that. When I think "diet" I go on and off it and in the long run am much worse off. Sticking with lc for life is a healthy approach - then if I cheat a little like I did at Christmas I can just get right back on because it is my woe for life and the cheat didn't send me off an running in the wrong direction. Good luck and keep posting - the support here is great. Karen
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| Hey Ed!!! I'm so glad you've come back to be with us! I'm a "newbie", and I wish you as much luck the 2nd time around as you had the first time around!!!
__________________ Amy is Kicking the butts of carbs all over the world...! |
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| Thanks all for your words of encouragement. To get organized I'm reading the induction chapter again and stocking up on the foods I'll need to get going. One of the biggest areas I'll be focusing on this time is exercise. I went from a physical job to a desk job and in the process I eat the same amount of food, but do a lot less activity. Quick question, is this the correct forum to post questions about meals? I think the one area I had trouble with last time was picking the right foods. For example, for B-Fast I would have a three egg omelet w/cheese and sausage links. Lunch I would have cold cuts (ham, turkey,roast beef) with mayo and cheese rolled up, but when I ran the carbs on FitDay I was getting numbers that didn't leave a lot of room for the last meal of the day.
__________________ Ed Atkins-Started 01/08/05 330/330/250 6'6" |
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| Sure this forum is good or the Atkins forum. It doesn't sound like you've had too many carbs in the meals you specified? How many carbs do you want to "save" for dinner? |
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| Rob, It's not so much how many I carbs want to save for dinner, but how many I've had for the entire day that has me concerned. Looking at a menu that I filled out on FitDay last August when I was in Induction, the total carbs for the day were 27. The fiber was 3, so I guess the total now is 24. To get that I ate: B-Fast... 3 eggs scrambled, 5 sausage links, and 1liter of water. Lunch... 5 slices of ham, 5 slices of turkey and 10 slices of Swiss cheese (10 carbs!), mayoed up and rolled. 1 liter of water. Dinner was an 8 oz pork chop, some lettuce and tomato with ranch dressing and 2 liters of water. I don't remember snacking, but if I did it was rolled meat only. The one thing I see that I could easily replace is the Swiss. I'd like to continue with cheese in the roll up, so I'll look for a different cheese to use. Any suggestions?
__________________ Ed Atkins-Started 01/08/05 330/330/250 6'6" |
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| hey ed--all the best with your return to low carbing! i generally don't comment much on menus because it's not my best thing, but you may want to look at how much cheese you're eating overall. if you go back to the atkins book and check, he talks about cheese on induction. (if memory serves, he recommends no more than an ounce of cheese a day). while you normally don't have to count calories, eating very much of calorie dense foods will stop many people from losing weight, even if it's low carb. for me, i've found this to be true if i overdo cheese, nuts, cream cheese, in particular. even if my carb count is very low, i can actually put on weight if i overdo on these foods. just a suggestion, something to think about. all the best! |
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| Goddess, Thanks, this is the kind of feedback I'm looking for. I guess I need to really look at the induction chapter again and absorb everything I can from it. I'm kind of a simple guy when it comes to menus on this woe. I can eat eggs and sausage everyday and have roll ups for lunch everyday without freaking out about the same ol' same ol'. Dinner can consist of a steak or any other meat and I'll be happy :fork: . Time to brush up on induction Thanks again for the feedback, it's always welcome.
__________________ Ed Atkins-Started 01/08/05 330/330/250 6'6" |
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| 3-4 oz of cheese during induction (page 125 paperback DANDR book.. THAT is ALLOWED not NECCESSARY.. not I have to HAVE 4 oz... so heres the deal ed... if you like the cheese? slice a slice in fours or fives.. put a PIECE of each slice in the roll up.. if you dont want to cut back ALL of it at once.. cut back to a HALF of slice and cut down from there.. i used to eat alot of cheese..not now tho.. (although i go in cycles of what i eat) .. and i found that if i LIKED the taste of cheese.. and i WANTED that cheese.. i didnt MASK it by putting it in something else.. i ate it... savored each bite.. and tasted ONLY the delicious cheese i wanted.. just me... not for everyone.. also... alot of "cold cuts" have alot of sodium... some even have CARBS .. heck.. in sausages i have seen one that has 7 CARBS in one.. and others that have almost none.. check the packages.. but remember that the sodium will make you retain water and leave you FEELING like you weigh more.. best wishes for success! |
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| Hi, Ed - welcome back! I think Fitday is a good learning tool, although I prefer a locally installed program called DietPower, which works much faster. It is surprising how those carbs add up; and I agree that you may be overdoing the cheese a bit. Cold cuts can also might also be a bit problematic, as they have such high sodium; and I think some are cured with small amounts of sugar. As long as you are still losing weight, it's not likely that you are eating too many carbs, though there are a variety of foods that can stall weight loss even in small amounts. I believe that logging food consumed is great for learning what works for you, individually. We are all slightly different and it seems that some foods that stall some folks don't adversely affect others at all. A food log, such as Fitday, is a good way to build up a history of what works or doesn't work for you. Remember to eat your veggies - especially the leafy greens, which are so low in carbs and so necessary for good health. FWIW, I personally don't worry about the carbs in zucchini, brocolli, cauliflower, spinach, lettuce and stuff like that. It's pretty hard to eat too much of those foods.
__________________ ~~~Teelbee Back to GOAL!!! start weight: 176/goal range: 137-134/now: 138 Reached goal in Aug. 2003 - 4rd year of maintenance. |
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| Im a newbie and plan to start low-carbing. Hubby is going to do it with me...for the support...plus for his health as well. I recently found out that I am diabetic.:( I tried the Atkins diet last year for about 2 weeks. I kept a horrible headache...so I quit. I cut out my caffeine completely...so I think that was my problem. So..Im back to try it again. I now have much more will power. Being a diabetic made me stop and think about living a healther life...and being here to see my girls grow up. Good luck to you Ed. |
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| If you like swiss cheese buy the deli thin slice (I think kraft make it) or have your deli department slice it thin, Then do what kim describes. I don't do well with 4 ounces of cheese a day, at least not every day. So I try to keep it to 2 ounces most days. As Kim and Teelbee said Deli meats have a lot of sodium and that can make you retain water which will mask weight loss. I'm not saying never have deli meat just not every day. There's lots you can have though to replace the deli meat. Buy a round roast and slice it thin. You know what's in it since you made it at home. Same with a turkey breast. Buy a family pack of chicken legs or whatever is on sale or cheap and cook them up and stick some in the freezer and keep some for lunches and/or snacks. Hard boil eggs a dozen at a time. MAke deviled eggs out of some of them or make egg salad and stuff celery with it. If you go over by 4 carbs don;t sweat it just try for 20 the next day,. |
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| Yes, and don't forget the veggies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Us oldies have come to view veggies pretty much as free food, as long as they are the right veggies. The ones Teel listed are a great start. (zucchini, brocolli, cauliflower, spinach, lettuce) and there are others too, like spaghetti squash (you'll get a workout just cutting this sucker open), summer squash, green beans, jicama, mushrooms, sweet peppers, radishes, chayote squash, asparagus, green onion, romaine lettuce etc. If it gets watery when cooked, it's generally okay to eat. Just avoid the starchy veggies like potatoes, peas, corn, most legumes, and rice. Black soy beans can be used in chili in place of the usual red beans. And don't forget to subtract the fiber from the veggies' carb counts. And think about it...........no one ever got fat eating too many leafy, "green" veggies. The nice thing about veggies is that they fill you up, add fiber (very necessary) and provide SOME nutrients. Eating them RAW is the best way and many of the allowed veggies can be cut up and put on salads. But the BEST thing about veggies is that they are also low in calories. We really SHOULD be eating 5 per day. So eat them liberally. Don't worry too much about their carb counts, especially after the induction period is over. And BTW, ONLY do induction for 2 weeks and move along to adding as many veggies as you can get in. Ed you might want to also get yourself a good food counts book to have on hand too. I find that I refer to that more often than using fitday, but that's just me. Welcome to the boards Ed AND WVgirl, I hope we can help you on your LC journey.
__________________ Barb 174/146/135 Atkins-3/14/03 Knowledge is POWER |
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