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Old 01-24-2005, 07:54 PM
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Hi everyone,
Hope you are all well! Just a quick questons - is it possible to have too little carbs on induction? Here is my daily meal (typical)

Brekkie: ham and eggs and tomato (approx 3 carbs)
Snaks: low joule jello (no carbs)
Lunch: caeser salad with lettuce, parmesen and abit of dressing and bacon (3 g)
Dinner: cream, bacon, mushroom and parmesen sauce over chicken breasts (5g)

That is an average day and that means i am only eating 11g of carbs! Is this ok or will this be bad for my weight loss? I only need to lose about 10 pounds but its more because my body ha a high % of fat that my doctor recommended me to go on this diet, plus im allergic to wheat in bread and pasta...

Any ideas???? This is a typical day and I never go over that amount of carbs...

Also any ideas other than eggs, tomato and bacon for brkkie in induction? Ive just ordered like 120 Atkins bars from ebay with all less than 2 g of carbs so thats going to be my replacement brekkie, along with their waffles etc, but i think i have to wait till after induction to eat any atkins products??

Sorryabout all the questions- i live in australia and its very hard to get any info here!

thanks everyone and good luck!

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The bars actually have a much higher count than that...more like 30 but most of them are sugar alcohols and many of us find that we can't eat them because of the sugar alcohols or that they cause horrible stomach problems (Me for one of the stomach issue people), and many times they stall you if you have them more often than once or twice a week...think outside the norm for breakfast...hamburger patties, salads, cucumber slices, add spinach, mushrooms, etc to your eggs omlet style, have veggies for a snack instead of jello...it is entirely possible for your body to go into starvation mode at 11 carbs and hang on to more fat instead of letting it go. With only 10 lbs to go losses will be very slow but you need more carbs per day...looks like you could use more veggies too...add a cup of cooked veggies at dinner with your Chicken Parmesean or another salad or both. YOu need to get to at least 20 carbs per day.
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Old 01-24-2005, 09:09 PM
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Hi Kat!!! Ditto to what Lori said. Where's all your veggies??????????? And YES you can eat way too little carbs. That is actually not a good thing. Your brain and kidneys need glucose, so you have to have SOME carbs...........mostly in the form of veggies. Choose any of the green, leafy, watery veggies freely. Avoid potatoes, peas, corn, carrots (cooked), rutabega, turnips, and most beans, except green or yellow beans. Eat copious amounts of salad greens, sweet peppers, (or hot if you like them), cabbage, brussel sprouts, zucchini, yellow squash (the yellow like zucchini-actually,most summer squashes), green beans, green onion or scallions, choyote (if you can get them), cauliflower, eggplant, small amounts of tomato (pretty high in natural sugars), jicama-great raw with dips (if you can get that), etc.

For brekkie I like to have mock danish once in awhile. The recipe is up in the recipe database at the top of the page. I'll look to see what category it is under. It's a nice change from bacon and eggs. Also LC pancakes are good too........I'll check out the recipe here for that too.

Leftover meats are also good for brekkie.

Watch out for those bars!!!!! The sugar alcohols do a number on my digestive system as well. If you get intestinal distress from them, then the rule of thumb is that they aren't impacting your blood sugar levels. BUT if they are NOT affecting your tummy, then your body is probably reacting to them as if they are all REAL sugars. So either way, they can have a negative effect. So reserve them for occasional use and I would recommend you only eat half a bar in one sitting and save the rest for another day. (They'll last you a lot longer that way too!!!!) I use the Endulge bars occasionally when I'm going bonkers for something chocolate., but I'm getting more and more away from them.
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Here's a link to the mock danish recipe in the database: Mock Danish That's a basic recipe. This can be augmented with spices, cocoa powder and topped with whipped cream (homemade of course.......none of that stuff in the can) It's one of my faves!!!!!
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Here's a basic recipe for pancakes, but I like to add about 1/4 cup of almond flour (if you can get it) and 1 tsp. of baking powder to mine. They fluff up nicely like "real" pancakes with the addition of the other two ingredients.

Pancakes I don't know if you have access to any sugar-free syrups there, but Log Cabin makes a nice one.

There's a sticky in the Cooking Forum also with a discussion about Mock Danish. Here's a link to it. Mock Danish Sticky
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HI Everyone

thanks so much for your replies! Great help! Yeah I didnt realise that about the bars! I bought a packet from australia (mind you atkins products are soo expensive in australia! like US$4 a bar!) and they did give me a bit of stomach gas and pain!

Thanks for your ideas on the veggies! Great help! I have eaten my 3 cups of veggies today in the form of a caesar salad with parmesan, bacon, lettuce (cos) a serving of low carb caesar dressing and now i feel wonderful!!!

Thanks also for the great brekkie ideas! Im not a fan of eggs so thats a great help!! I was thinking because i ordered from Ebay some of the cappucino shake mix and also the Atkins pancake mix which will be heaven sent when it arrives to my doorstep!! So can i ask you guys does this sound a bit better for my induction meals?

Brekkie: either scrambled eggs and bacon, OR a crustless quiche OR one atkins trail mix bar OR a few Atkins pancakes?

Snacks: come cheese and olives or else a serving of the Atkins cappucino shake

Lunch: a big salad with lots of lettuce, a few tomatoes, low carb dressing, parmesen cheese sprinkle, and some beef strips or chicken mixed in

Dinner: steak or chicken or some form of meat and if i havent usd up my veggies i will add somemore in?

I think that should reach the 20g on average per day!

I am also drinking my 2 L of water a day and walking to and from work for about 40 minutes a day!

Hopefully this makes my body burn the tummy fat I have! Im starting to look like an old labrador dog! ( you know how their hips go all square when they get old?hheheh)

Also another question - my boyfriend is diabetic and used things called ketosis stips that measure the sugar in his urine- is this what people use when they talk about ketosis strips????

Sorry for all the questions but it is incrediably hard to find atkins products and info here in Australia!

thanks again and much love and support to everyone out there!
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Always add in a veggie at dinner...even if it puts you over by two or three. 1/2-1 Cup of a cooked veggie or a smaller salad...tummy fat is the hardest to lose...I am fighting only the belly now after losing 70lbs and a good number of inches off my tummy...I still have a roll but it is much smaller than I had before. The sticks are for measuring ketones (burning fat causes your body to produce ketones not looking for sugar). I never counted the salad greens I ate on Induction only the toppings and I ate a good number of extra veggies with a dip or plain...I counted those but not the salad greens and it worked beautifully for me...I lost nicely during induction and the weeks following! That does look better and the exercise will help too. Another thing you can do to help with the belly is to do some toning exercises-you might ask your doctor what he suggests...sit-ups don't work just the ab muscles, but toning will help the look of your belly area...there are some specific weight machines that work the abs more specifically and efficiently than sit-ups/crunches and using an exercise ball to do crunches really targets them specifically. You might try that along with your eating LC and walking.
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Lori, even when I was thin (yes, I was in the low 120s for several years) I had a belly but no waist. I don't think that'll change for me as I lose the weight. I don't expect to have an hourglass figure when I reach my goal. I just hope not to look as wide as I am tall anymore!
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I had belly when I was 10 so I know mine will not be totally gone ever either then add in three pregnancies and one full term baby and I know that figure I had will never be there...but I have always had a waist...even at my heaviest nothing fit around the waist if it fit my belly and backside...go figure...but lifiting and toning are trimming my tummy a little. I had the same hope when I started last Jan. I wanted to look taller than I was wide...I am 64 inches tall and was over 50 inches around...YIKES! losing 70 lbs has been a huge change but so is the exercise and toning making a huge difference. I am wearing 10s and 12s and was in 22s that were so tight I had to lay down to button them when I started! Talk about changes in a year! Gotta love this WOL! At one time in college...before my wedding I was very tiny...about 115-120 and a size 3 jeans...then came marriage...then a pregnancy and a miscarriage and lots of weight gain with toxcemia and emotional issues after the loss...then a move and a job change...then came DD and 25 more gained...then anotehr huge change and back to college and then anotehr move and a job change and another job change and well you get the picture and I never lost much...tried almoste very diet known to man but couldn't lose...not sure I really wanted to allt aht badly...but I got bigger and bigger and bigger...then pregnancy #3 and another loss...then we moved stateside for the first time in 7 years (US military does strange things to your life--we lived in GErmany for 7 years) and I am teaching PE to K-4 students and I can't teach them the things I want to because I can no longer do them and then comes the real wake up call! My granddad pokes me in teh belly and tells me I look more and more like grandma (she died in 1992 of a massive heart attack--I look like her I act a lot like her and I inherited her tendency toward weight especially in teh middle) and that scared the bejabbers out of me...I had to "fix" me or run the risk of being in an early grave just like she was (died at 63) and I want to watch my DD do all teh special things in her life and my grandmother never saw her first great grandchlild...but I was headed in her footsteps...so I started last January...and here I am now...71 lbs lighter and much healthier! Anyway, I was just saying that it is possible to tone the abs and belly area with work.
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Kat, your menu choices look good. Just make sure you get in the veggies. I like to change up how I make my eggs. They can get boring if you have them the same way all the time. I like to cook them in the microwave in little egg cups (gotta pierce the yolks or they will explode!!!) and then let them cool off a bit and make egg salad with it. I add a bit of chopped celery, a tad of onion, and even some dill relish if I have it on hand. I also like deviled eggs. I also really like scrambled cooked in a bit of bacon grease, and add mushrooms, a bit of onion, sweet peppers, cheese and ham if I have it. (YUM!!!!) Now that I am close to my goal weight, I use Low Carb breads occasionally and will have egg salad on that. There are also some good Low Carb Thin Crackers, Wasa Breads, Flatbread, type crackers that will eventually fit in too. I use the ones that have the highest amount of fiber and rye flour in them. Don't know if you can get them there in Aussieland. These crackers also work well with all natural nut butters, chicken salads, ham salads, etc. (something to look forward to)

I practically LIVED on olives and cheese in the beginning. Now my menu has expanded, so I don't rely on them quite so much. It's fun to explore the things you can add back in as you lose weight.

I also made ham rolls and filled them with cream cheese mixed with chopped scallions (green onions, spring onions) or chopped olives or BOTH!! Yummy!!!! But do watch out for ham, it's so high in sodium and can cause water retention, which translates to a stall.

Don't think you have to use a lot of Atkins products in order to do Atkins correctly. It's about learning how to cook properly and foregoing the easy, fast foods. It's a lifestyle change.......and that means expanding one's ability to cook.

I'm on the brink of staying in the 130's (WOOHOO!!!), but I still wobble back into the low 140's now and then, and even still, I have a bit of a roll left. I also figure I won't entirely get rid of that, especially after having given birth to 2 babies. But that's okay, I'm never entering a bikini contest, so who cares???? All I know is that I will NEVER eat any food products with hydrogenated fats in it, 'cuz that where it goes...........straight to the mid-section.
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