Hey Zman - found this for you:

In cooking terms, corn syrup in this country is very often referred to as glucose. But it is not pure glucose; it also contains a fair bit of another, more complex, sugar, dextrin. Also, in that corn is largely an American crop, corn syrup has not been widely available in Europe. So your European cookbooks are really calling for pure glucose, which has probably been processed from grapes or honey.

Pure liquid glucose is available in supermarkets in Europe, but, as far as we can tell, is only available for commercial applications in the US. So now that you've learned all that you need to, use light corn syrup in your baking and frosting projects. Who's going to notice a little extra dextrin?

Let me know how it tastes. ;-)
Dee

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Hey Dee



Thanks for the reply but hate to burst your bubble. The cookbook is written by an American along with the diet as I'm also *grin* and the recipe calls for Glucose powder. Any body else have some thoughts. Any help would be appreciated. Maybe I didn't explain this enough but the home brew is going to be a smoothie or a drink afterwards(within 1/2 hr. of the end of the ride) and the glucose is to enter your system real fast for recovery. Hey Carmichael has the Postie boys now the Discovery team on if for the proper % of protein, carbs, and fats now if I was only as fast as them would have it made. No strike that would be too easy then and no memories.


Zman

Hey Dee:

Here's what I found out(by doing a Goggle Search) Ross Nutrition sells this product and it's called Polycose which is a Glucose Polmers Powder.

There always seems to be a kicker after all your hard earned work so here's my dilema. It only sells I'm assuming to Nursing Homes etc. in 6 can lots which are 12.3 oz cans and because it's a weight gaining powder I would be only using it for those really hard rides. Here's what the home brew calls for

Recipes for Homebrew Recorery Drink(by body weight)

will list for 180 lbs.

20 ozs. frozen fruit juice(mixed up) can use any kind
5 TBSP Glucose
3-3 1/2 TBSP Protein Powder
add some kind of fruit
and if you didin't use frozen berries add a hand full of ice

Total Calories approx 660-685

With only using the glucose maybe once or twice a week 6 cans would last me forever and probably go bad. The other times you can just omit the glucose from the smoothie drink.


Zman

I'll just chime in with the note about "learning" calories/carbs.

If you log your daily food intake into a nutrition tracking program like Fitday (www.fitday.com) or DietPower (www.dietpower.com), you will start learning the nutritional values of the foods you consume.

The online version of Fitday is free, but it is slower for food look-ups than a locally installed program. I think Fitday is available as locally installed version that you can buy, for faster look-ups.

DietPower also includes an exercise and water intake tracker, which you may find interesting. I like it's recipe analyser, which takes a recipe's ingredients and provides detailed nutrition data per serving (calories, grams of fat, protein, carbohydrate, vitamins and minerals). It is a locally installed program, so it is faster to use than an online tracker. DietPower provides a free 15-30 day trial (just extend the trial when the initial 15 days elapse).

There are other nutrition tracking programs on the market, but these two seem to be the most popular among LCE users.

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Somewhere in the archives, there's a low carb version of a replenishing sports drink that was developed by an LCE user. He was a long distance cycler; and I recall it was also for balancing electrolytes and replenishing salts, potassium, etc. That post was a few years back and I'm not remembering his user name. :( I'll think on it a while and if I can remember his ID, I can probably find the posting.

Your drink recipe below looks to be unnecessarily high carb and sugary to me, but then I'm not an endurance athlete. Personally, I don't think glucose powder is necessary or desireable for anyone with a remotely normal and healthy metabolism. There are plenty of protein powders on the market. I happen to like Designer Whey Protein, as it has a less weird taste than other protein powders.

EDIT: I remembered his name, Cue-bald-1. But, apparently the posting is too old for an archive search. I recall the drink used Morton's Salt Substitute (potassium chloride) as and inexpensive potassium supplement. Note: potassium supplements should not be used without a doctors' review if one has heart problems or takes certain heart medications).

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Hey Tellbee thanks for your comments here, as I'm just the newbie here. I have started logging onto fit day as I like their plan of logging your calories and what you eat and then also has an exercise program on it and a journal that you can keep. Yeah it's slow but I'm starting to customize my foods. It's really hard to explain and I really don't know how to explain it other than the people that wrote The Paleo Diet which I have been trying worked with endurance athletes and no it's not for everyone, but if you can get your % of carbs, fats and proteins into your system within the 1st 30 minutes after exercise in a smoothie or liquid form for fast digestion into your system seems the recovery really works great.


I pretty much had hammered legs today from a very hard workout and a mt. climb and tried that homebrew for the 1st time and yes it seemed to work for me as my recovery was real fast. All we really want as cyclists is to be able to recover as fast as we can and then be able to go out and do it all over again tomorrow. Yes I'm still learning big time about what I'm eating and counting calories as I have never done that before and yes my diet today was way too high in carbs and will have to do better tomorrow.

BTW I think the substitute that you were refering to was a Fluid Replacement drink specifically GatorAde as I have seen that before but thanks for the heads up.


Thanks
Zman

Well, the replenishing drink I mentioned wasn't GatorAde. It was a homemade recipe for a low carb version of a drink to balance electrolytes. I searched the archives, but I couldn't find it.

I'm just puzzled by the glucose drink recipe. I'm not very familiar with the Paleo diet, but I thought it was an attempt to get back to the natural diet our bodies evolved to in paleolithic times? It just doesn't strike me as likely that the Paleolithic people would have been able to slam their bodies with a sugary drink within 30 minutes of exercise.

I realize the nutrional needs of an elite athlete would differ from the norm, but... but your homebrew... Wouldn't fresh fruit be a more natural alternative?

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Hey teelbee you are right in that life style eating choice is going back to ancient times and so because of that they are trying to get more protein vegetables and fresh fruit into you. The glucose is only to be used sparingly and only after a very hard or hammer workout and I have tried other things before when the need arises but the home brew worked really well the other day and I didn't have any glucose and yes I still used some fresh fruit a peach, which it calls for. I look at this as not a diet because they come and go but a food lifestyle change and yes it has been kinda hard for me to give up some sweets. As an athlete they are saying we don't get enough protein in our body to help build up the muscle we break down while exercising.





Zman

Hey Zman... my tri is in less than 48 hours, and I'm in the tri jitters mood. ;-)

As for the protien, or lack there in, I completely agree with the guy. For true athletes - adequate protien makes a HUGE difference. I think I may get the book from the library and read it... I looked through it at B&N a few months ago (before my first triathlon) during one of my Starbucks & Barnes and Nobles trips...it had alot of information in there that was similar to things I had learned on Atkins (natural whole foods, etc.).

I've got to do a bike inspection, make sure my flat repair stuff is all together (amazing how that stuff seems to dissappear even though 'I' haven't had to use it yet). I think I'm out of CO2 Containers... loaned them to someone who was on a long ride with me when they had a flat. And get all my gear ready to go.



Hope you are doing good!

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