I am having a problem with the reading of labels. Fot instance, on the Advantage Bar as given in an example on one of your pages, the carbs are listed, less the fiber, which is understandable, but then it says less Glycerine (9 grms.) I cannot find anyplace where Glycerine is listed to know how to look for the amount on any other label. I am very confused. PLEASE HELP! Also, one page says veges should not be counted as they are so good for you, but they do have grams, so how can you have nothing but veges if you can only have 20 gms. or less a day? Another confusion for me......
Thanks for any help.

I have heard that the true carb rating for the bars is higher than stated on the packet. Glycerine is sugar, so I don't know why it is 'subtracted'. I strongly advise you to stay away from the bars until after Induction at least, they are notorious for stalling weight loss.

I am one who did not restrict veggies on Induction. I went right on and ate 'em till I wanted no more. I lost 13 lbs in the first two weeks. But we are all different. I find it hard to believe that someone's weight loss would be stopped because they ate too much spinach and broccoli.

Just my 2 cents. I know others are more strict about the veggies.

Clare

Clare is right on about the bars and other lc products. To decide what the carb count of ANYTHING is, the safest course is to look only to the nutritional information, and use the formula total carbs minus fiber. Period.

There are a number of ingredients out there, glycerine, sugar alcohols, etc, that in SOME testing on SOME subjects do not cause a big rise in blood sugar. It is very difficult to make an acceptable commercial product without them, so most lc manufacturers tell you to discount the carbs from these ingredients.

The problem is, that for a great many of us, these ingredients DO cause a BIG rise in blood sugar. Until you are far enough along to feel free to experiment, it's best to avoid the bars and candies. If you use the basic calculation above, you'll find you don't have a sufficient "carb allowance" for much of this stuff anyway.

When it comes to GREEN LEAFY vegetables, you'll see that the carb count for them is very low. When you are eating them raw, as in salads, they have an even lower glycemic index than when cooked. I haven't heard anyone report a stall from "overdoing" green leafy vegetables. You have to watch your own results of course, but these are the some of the safest foods you can eat.

HTH

Maggie
5'1"
Atkins since '98 (160)
Maintaining nicely (110)

Redhead until further notice!

RRJCN,

As usual Maggie is right on target!

Consider leaving the bars completely for a week or two (after a while you may not find them to be very tasty - once I got through Induction i didn't have the sweet craving and found the bars to be sort of dry and yucky tasting)... just to see what your body does without them.

on the vegetables... Consider tracking your food intake for a week on fitday - you will be delightfully surprise at how easy it becomes to track your carbs and fiber - AND watch how your weight loss occurs against the food you are eating. Here is my public fitday: http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJ...?Owner=RQQQPx2

I have been off and on fitday for the last year (I travel a lot and so I can't track so many exotic and ethnic foods) and it is by far, the most reliable means for me to stay on track and really see what is going into my belly!

Good Luck!

Hugs,
Rachel
165/138/128
Haec trutina errat. (Latin for,"There is something wrong with this scale".)

Hi,

I just wanted to add to the info pool on so called "low carb" bars and such.

This is my second attempt at LC'ing. In May of 1999 I started on Atkin's plan and had lost 86 lbs. Went from 305 to 219, when I discovered "Atkin's Advantage" products. "Oh" I said "How marvelous, low carb candy". Well, being a compusive person I conned myself into the false sense that being LC I could eat two or three bars/shakes a day and still loose weight.

Boy, was I mistaken! I stalled for four months and quit in abject frustration. I was eating LC, why wasn't I continuing to loose?!!!!! I firmly believe that these products put me on a path that lead to saying "Heck with this, I'm eating donuts!"

I know that there are many that use these products and can do so in moderation, not me! So, be wary and be aware of what your tolerances are for sweets! If you tend to be compulsive, these "good" foods may not be your cup o' tea.

As for me, I would rather now have a 1/2 cup of Applesauce or Strawberries as my "treat" and stay away from "candy".

Of course as Dennis Miller says; "That is just my opinion, I could be wrong!"

P.S. Fitday is wonderful. With the help of others on this board (thanks, BrightLady), I learned that you can customize the foods to remove fiber from carb counts, making it so...much easier to track "net carbs".

Cheers,

Information gladly given, but safety requires no unnecessary conversation.

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJ...wner=RedLegg46

LC - 7/3/03
290/242/169

I have a problem with lc candy food labels also. I can't read the damn things without a magnifying glass. Course 20 years ago I coulda read them at arms length. lol

Rob