Thread: Eden Foods Black Soy Beans

I was doing some reading on another forum and ran across this thread.

I posted this in the cooking section but later thought I should put it here as well.

I know a lot of people are eating these thinking that they are only getting one carb per 1/2 cup serving.



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Here's the email sent to me way back in August 2001, when I inquired about this (from the thread I linked to in my message above here):

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Dear Doreen,

Thank you for contacting Customer Service at Eden Foods.

The Dietary Fiber of 7g that you see listed on the Nutrition Panel is not included in the amount of calories listed per Pam Stepka who works in our Purchasing Department.

If you should have any further questions, please Contact Customer Service.

Sincerely,


Sandy Baker
Customer Service
Eden Foods
800-248-0320
www.edenfoods.com
The Dietary Fiber of 7g that you see listed on the Nutrition Panel is not included in the amount of calories listed It has been pre-subtracted before calculating the calories contributed by protein, fat and carbohydrate.

From Livvy's email in the post above: .. So, we can assure you that our label lists true carbohydrates, not a "net number Exactly --- the 8 grams of carbohydrate are true carbs that contribute calories.


Let's look at the nutrient data from the label ... it's also posted at the Eden Foods website ..

per 1/2 cup serving

calories: 120
calories from fat: 50
Total Fat: 6g
Total Carbohydrate 8g
Dietary Fiber 7g
Sugars 1g
Protein 11g
According to our Hidden Carbs Inspector, which is based on the USDA database and nutrient values, Legumes and Soy products yield the following caloric values per nutrient:

carbohydrate - 4.04834 calories per gram
fat - 8.39772 calories per gram
protein - 3.50036 calories per gram

So, for the Eden soy beans:

6g fat x 8.39772 = 50.386 calories .. and indeed, they declare 50 calories from fat

11g protein x 3.50036 = 38.504 calories

50.386 + 38.504 = 88.89 calories from fat and protein

120 - 88.89 = 31.11 calories that MUST come from digestible carbs

31.11 ÷ 4.04834 = 7.684 grams of digestible carbs, rounded up to 8g

The Eden black soy beans contribute 8 grams of digestible carbs per ½ cup serving. 8 g that are absorbed, contribute caloric energy and affect blood sugar and insulin levels.

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If this is all true, that's a new one on me, never heard of "pre-subtracted fiber"! Shame on them! I've been making chili this winter using their black soybeans. Using their label to figure carbs per serving.

More confusion for consumers to deal with concerning labeling.

Take care~
Susan

LCE Member since 01/02

That's the wackiest way of doing a label I ever heard! Color me confused.....

Char

Being "over the hill" is much better than being under it....

Now I am wondering and worried....do other companies presubtract? Darn them....of course, we are double subtracting, we do not know they are! Shouldn't TOTAL carbs...mean just that ....total...not total..after we have subtracted. I think they do it purposefully so we think that there are less carbs and buy it.

Peace, Joanna
Atkins since 12/3/03
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