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Old 05-19-2004, 10:45 AM
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Okay one month on this diet and I feel like crap. I see results as far as pants fitting better but my body is flabby and just awful, my legs look like hail damage and I am small bones so all you se is flab and nothing more. I am killig myself swimming and bining and I am NOT seeing firming up at all. The fat is there very prominant I had my doc measuremy fat yesterday and YES I am 36.4 body fat ths is absurd for my size. It is one thing if I were not biking and swmming, but for goodnes sake I am sweating like a road hog and it seems I am losing body mass instead cuz the fat is only getting flabbier and flabbier. My belly hangs when I sit and it is just repulsive to me.


So help me go back on Induction even tho the strips are showing purple I really cant trust them and the scale well forget it, the scale is not moving and hte body fat is only dropped 1.6% in one month. I am losing what? lean? Iam about to lose my mind. Summer is here and I feel like crap and look bad.

So help me get back on inductioin with something more reliable and with things I can find here in Germany FlaxOmeal is not an option for me.

Can anyone help?
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Old 05-19-2004, 11:15 AM
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I think it has been mentioned that low carb is not for everyone. If you are miserable, and not seeing any results, maybe you need to find something else.
What did your doctor say about it? Would probably be your best source of information at this time. We aren't seeing what you are seeing - but you don't have a lot to lose, and it seems like you are battling it the entire time. maybe the low-cal /low-fat would be better for you.

I think most of the people that the low-carb is working for actually prefer this way of eating - it makes them feel better healthwise. But if you are not seeing that benefit, maybe it isn't the plan for you.
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Old 05-19-2004, 11:28 AM
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Thanks mary for your reply. Like I said before on other posts, I have had great success in 2003 with this Atkins diet and felt and looked great. After my operatioin in From about the summer of 2003 I started taking a drug called Neurontin to help me with my nerve pains and since then I have not lost any weight. I am fighting hte scale, workingout, eating right and it is frustrating me to the pits.

I just measured and to say this I am sadly disappointed that I have not even shed one inch. So why are my jeans so loose? Mind you, this is about one of few items that fits looser not so much better but looser. Overall, I feel weak and tired all the time and with low energy, I am pumping all that vitamins and stuff down my throat which normally gives me a hell of a perk up. But It must be the meds then, it can only be one thing and that is the meds. becuase I am not taking in more than 20-25 a day now and despite the fact the Ketos strips show dark purple where on earth is the fat going? In my brain? I love this way of eating and low cal is not my thing and neithe ris lofat since I love foods which have some means of good fats in them i.e. olive oils creams etc. So Low carbing is my thing, I just need help.

As for my doc, she says she does not understand this and why I looked so well last year and this year it is so difficult. I do weights almost eveery other day, biking 30 minuts 3-4 times a weeks swimming 2 times a week more than 1.5 hours I should be bone thin. I am not building muscle mass at all. The fact may be coming off at maybe 1/4 grm a day maybe but what is the matter? I cannot go back to eating the foods I used eat before like breads, pasta, potatoes and anything with sugars I have basically not eaten them in over a year now, but the fact is. Something is wrong. So my belly wont go away it is flabby as hell and you can watch MY whole body as small as I am and see the dimpless cellulite all over not only on m y legs, my belly, calf, arms chest just hear my breasts. Why is this happening? Why are the fat cells storing in sucha horrific way? I showed my doc and she does not know. Remember Germans are not big on this low carbing so they shun it very much so cant get much help there. My skin is DRY and not looking good, can it be that my liver is not working right?

I do want to continue this diet and I do want help, but something is wrong. :(
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Old 05-19-2004, 01:39 PM
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did your doctor do blood work on you?
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Old 05-19-2004, 01:43 PM
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Sounds to me like you really need to push your doctor on this, or find another one. It just doesn't seem right.
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Old 05-19-2004, 03:51 PM
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So Low carbing is my thing, I just need help.
I echo what Mary Kay said about low carb not being for everyone. Apparently, it isn't for you because you're miserable and it's not working. I don't know what else I (or anyone else here) can do to help you besides lend support. Personally, in previous posts, I gave you all of my 6-year "veteran of low carb" advice that I had and you chose to ignore that, which is fine.

Perhaps someone else will have the golden answer for you. Good luck in your endeavors.

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Old 05-19-2004, 04:09 PM
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well, if it started being a problem about the time you started medication...couldn't that be behind it? people react so indivdually to medication, and i also personally believe from my own experience that locarbing really impacts how i handle medication and things like that.
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Old 05-19-2004, 04:58 PM
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Mabel I am sorry you are so miserable. Perhaps this isn't the right thing for you, but if you think it is, here goes:

1) Are you following your chosen low carb plan TO THE LETTER? I know from experience that cheating does not work and even if I am exercising my ass off, I do not lose weight if I am not on plan.

2) It is too much of a coincidence that these problems started near the time you started taking medication. If you are not getting answers from your doctor, then GET A DIFFERENT DOC. We have to be in charge of our health care and if we are not getting answers from one source, then we need to keep searching for the answers with another doc or provider.

3) I find that if my attitude is in the toilet, my energy goes down, my weight goes up, and I am generally just unhappy as hell. Which, frankly, is how you sound, Mabel. Atkins and the other plans dont' address this much, but a positive mental, spiritual and emotional attitude are, in my opinion, crucial to success, in life as well as in weight loss

4) This support group is just that. Support. We have given the answers we know from experience and you have gotten some great advice from April and others who have been on here much longer than I. Your cry for help is heard, but you are getting all the help that a support group of laypeople can give you.

5) Mabel, instead of complaining about how horrible everything is today, take a deep breath and ask yourself what ACTION can you take today to improve things? Can you call and make an appointment with a different doctor? Can you re-read the Atkins book to get you inspired again and then commit to following it exactly as it is laid out? (or whatever plan you've chosen) Can you spend some time being quiet, in meditation, prayer, or just quiet time, centering yourself and getting out of "panic mode" and "anger mode"?

I wish you the best Mabel, and I believe you can succeed. Good luck.
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Old 05-19-2004, 05:28 PM
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well said, renee. nicely written ... and i agree!
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Old 05-19-2004, 11:04 PM
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Great replies above. I would only add that perhaps you are overtraining as far as exercise goes. Weights, swimming, biking, every day without adequate rest is a great way to get run down and feel like crap. And your muscles will actually get smaller.

I feel your frustration Mabel. A month is a long time to go without getting results you expect.. But do remember this is a long term deal. Try to be patient. Unless your meds are interfering with your weight loss which seems likely, the results will come. Maybe not as fast as you would like, but they will.
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Mabel--even if meds are interfering--as much as you say you are exercising-20gs of carbs aren't enough--50-60 might be in order. I know German doctors can be reall y annoying, but ask about natural herbs in place of the medicaitons you are taking. Most German doctors I saw were fantastic about finding a different source of the medication--natural or whatever--I did have to ask and many don't because you get a stern look and sometimes told off by a German doctor, but if you are as miserable as you say, find a new doctor or as more questions reguardless of the doc's reaction you need to know. take a few days off from exercise--let your muscles relax, 3-4 hours a day of exercise is asking ofr overuse injuries, not weight loss--you will lose muscle, not fat--and ifyour body doesn't/isn't burning the fat, it will use the muscle as fuel for your furious activity flurry. Slow down, take time, this is a lifetime deal, not a month quick fix!
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Mabel,
I would like to see a menu? Of what it is that you are eating? And the first sentence that I read in your thread was that you have been doing this for one month! That isn't a very long time to expect what took years to put on.....to come off. I know that everyone wants the weight to come off tomorrow or to drop 30 pounds on Induction. However, that isn't possible for everyone. I am a fast loser, but I can gain pretty darn fast too. Don't be so quick to be frustrated.
Induction: I stay on as long as I am overweight and I am feeling good. I am not sure why you are not feeling good? Do you mean energy wise? sickness?
My Induction consists of Meat,Cheese, eggs and green veggies and about a half of gallon of water a day. Anything not on that list I don't eat. It is that simple. I am strict but, the results are amazing. And I don't work out until atleast half of my weight is gone. I want to lose 60 pounds. I will not work out until 30 pounds is gone. And then I will start yoga and walk. I didn't have to kill myself the last time that I did this program and I am not going to do it this time.

If you can answer my questions that I asked I would be able to help you a little better. Hang in there friend! We are here.
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Old 05-20-2004, 01:22 PM
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I echo what Mary Kay said about low carb not being for everyone. Apparently, it isn't for you because you're miserable and it's not working. I don't know what else I (or anyone else here) can do to help you besides lend support. Personally, in previous posts, I gave you all of my 6-year "veteran of low carb" advice that I had and you chose to ignore that, which is fine.

Perhaps someone else will have the golden answer for you. Good luck in your endeavors.

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Got some more blood results since yesterday, they came in two batches, my potassium is at a record dangerous low. this explains the washed out weak and no energy feeling. So since I cant eat fruits what else is rich in potassium to bring me back up to peark? I should have realized the warning signs of absolute no gas to run my engine. Now this explains the problem so HELP ANYBODY what do you all take for potassium? Iknow all veges have some but when the body is so dangerously low on its resources what can one take to perk it up?
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Old 05-20-2004, 01:31 PM
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Okay guys and girls, many have asked me questions about my menu they are nnoted on previous topics and I dont think I can repeat them. yes I am following my plan according ot the atkins book to the T. Yes the medications may be a factor but even yesterday I called the R&D of this drug I use and it is not noted that any weight problems should occur, if it is they said they will like to study me YEAH RITE. But they did say this. Also, my blood work dose show low low potassium all the other blood factors are like new.

I am not working out 4 hrs a day, but 30 minutes and when I swim I am in the pool 1.5 - 2.00 hours but not actually lapping the whole time, but doing exercises. My ketos strips are the darkest purple ever so somethign is doing some place. My bowels function normal. My fat intake ratio is according to schedule. I am retaining fluid it seems but the potassium levels do indicate this is what has me washed out.

Again, I repeat I have done this diet and had great success with it. One member noted about cheating. I have never cheated on this diet, dont intend to, not the type of person to be tempted by foods. Dont like sweets and deserts so nothing to temp me but protein products, those are the thigns I like, meats, fish, fowl, nuts and fruits I do miss, but have not had any in a month. So you see, I am diong it right. So the drug may be causing a reaction to the fat storage and the potassium depletion is definitely the result of washed out feelings.

So now how do I fix it? I am all ears :>)
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Old 05-20-2004, 01:34 PM
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Here's a helpful link on potassium sources. http://www.naturodoc.com/library/nut.../potassium.htm

Also you should ask your doctor to consider prescribing a high dose potassium supplement.
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