Did you see Andrea's article in the low carb news section of this site? It is located here: http://www.lowcarbeating.com/bb/show...8537#post98537

Read the article (linked in her post at the beginning), then I suggest you pose your questions, if you still have them, directly into that space she has provided for just such questions. IMO your questions will be answered by her very well written article.

btw, where did hear those comments?

Cre8tive,
Just so you will know for the future...
If you post from an article you have read somewhere, I believe you need to provide a link. Andrea does not allow plagerism or infringement of copyrights on this site.

Could you provide us with the link, please, so we might read the total article?
Thanks bunches!

Shelley

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no i dont remember where i got it...type in search engine "low carb craze"
it brings you to many news articles, health journals...etc....maybe good for the research section here

Just a suggestion;

When you do a search with the word craze (as in crazy) you are going to come up with mostly negative articles about this woe. Try searching for low carb heallthy instead. Seems almost like you are looking for reasons to go off low carb.

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There is a vast difference between a debate and "poking the bear", as it were.

When you post links to articles which are "anti-low carb" on a low carb site, and then give no reasoning as to why you disagree with them, you are simply putting out negative information and expecting a reaction.

Well, here's your reaction.

There is nothing wrong with presenting opposing viewpoints, stating your side, proffering valid reasons and citing valid sources, and then blending your thoughts into this SUPPORT and ENCOURAGEMENT community for low carb advocates.

Keep that in mind. Please stop posting negative, anti-low carb articles and links without giving it a positive spin. There are many Newbies (and veterans!) who waver, and reading just negative publicity about low carb could be detrimental to those who are serious about weight loss and health through following a low carb way of life.

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This place provides a lot of info pro carb...thus i did not feel the need to post the good research I found. I am posting the negative because it is the hot topic in the news as of late...and they raise good valid points. For the new persons here, like myself, they are going to be swayed by news articles and peers. I posted in my title " what is your response to this" to get input from the old timers here..the vet's so to speak.
Reading the many posts here..how many people have dedicated daily to this woe? They argue themselves out of it, news says this, low carbers say that..and before you know it, they are no longer on the woe....but they come back. Perhaps posting the negative and allowing others to argue their points based on their experience rather than theory will help others stick to the diet. Any newbies interested in low carb should know all of the arguments....all sides before they jump on the wagon
As for the negative publicity and its detrimental effects on the newbies, let them decide for themselves.
Honestly, I mention the word cookie and describe the sweet decadance of it and then I am told not to. I post good arguments i found from local news articles on the low carb band wagon and again, am told not to. Is this not a free forum to speak your mind and your thoughts? Have I slandered or 'bashed' anyone? Have I offended someone by using crude names or racial slang?
I have read the agreements and conditions on this site and it doesnt say i cant speak freely about the arguments of low carb...that is the point of this place..to seek support, information...and we are talking about ALL information....no need to candy coat the debate in any way when it is in daily news...

Cre8tive -
you can speak your mind and present the opinions out there. I think some of the vets are just a little sensitive having put up with the negativity for so long.

meanwhile, Andrea herself has opened up a news / topic and has said she welcomes the discussion articles - both positive and negative - you may want to post your discussion here instead of in the Newbies forum.

http://www.lowcarbeating.com/bb/show...8813#post98813

The Diet and Health News Forum is the best place to post information from other sources in hopes of having a discussion. I think we try to leave the Newbies and other forums for general questions, help, and good natured chatting.

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Well said, Mary Kay. That's what I was trying to say.

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oh, yeah, - forgot -
whining is allowed in any forum.

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It's because of articles like this that I have faltered and failed so many times on low carb. No offense but there is so much overload on pro's and con's that right now all I want is to hear the positives. It's too hard to decifer each article and figure out which is true and which is sales-based and that makes committing to one or the other very difficult. I've run the gambit from vegan to low carb because of articles like this. THAT is very hard on the body...and the mind...

My responce to the article is IVE HEARD IT ALL BEFORE.I laugh at the talk of atkins is dangerous.ok a way back in the time of the caveman there was a great shortage of fresh bread,rice,corn flakes,SUGAR,potatoes and fries and on and on.We survived on animal meats and berries and i bet you didnt see a obese caveman.We grew into the large numbers you see today but with the amount of sugar products and white flour consumed we are killing ourself's.Everybody has a right to there opinion but i dont like this talk of low carb being dangerous when the goverments of america and the uk allow company's to fill us with low fat food that is more harmful to us.In the future we will look back and laugh at how stupid we were to try the FAD LOW FAT CRAZE

And just to restate: The newbies have a hard enough time as it is, we don't need to make it harder on them, ok?

Like Mary Kay said, please use the forum I referenced earlier that Andrea has specifically for this type of discussion.

My response to the article, HOOEY!!!! I don't trust the ADA as far as I can throw them. They don't get it. If what they recommend as a diabetic diet is supposed to be so good, why does diabetes continue to rise at alarming rates and why aren't diabetics getting any better? My DH and I had a discussion on this very subject just the other day. Call me paranoid, but I truly think the major drug companies have a tremendous impact on what is recommended. I might even believe it's somewhat conspiratorial. DH doesn't think they set out to keep people addicted to drugs and on medications they COULD get themselves off of. I disagree. They are self-perpetuating. If diabetics got better, they wouldn't need their millions of dollars worth of glucophage.

Sure, the 20 gram levels of induction-type stages of LC programs is rough at first. But we don't sustain that level indefinitely. I felt like crap while on that level. But I upped my carbs with WHOLE foods quite rapidly and feel like a million bucks now. I have completely cut out JUNK foods, sugar, high fructose corn syrup, hydrogenated fats, etc. As far as that goes, I eat very clean.

There are many people who participate on this board who WERE diabetics or who have been able to decrease or eliminate their Diabetese meds altogether. Call me crazy, but I think they have this WOL to thank for that. And to say that one should consume 40-60 carbs per meal.................well that's just crazy talk. If I did that, I'd be right back to where I was pre-LC.

No matter how many negative articles I read about LC, I will NEVER let that sway me away from it, EVER. Pure and simple.............this is my lifestyle now, for the rest of my life. And I LOVE it!!!!!!

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