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"Ongoing Weight Loss" at Low Carb Diet Support: "Long story that I'll try to make short..... <UL TYPE=SQUARE>Co-worker complains of hunger after three days on "Atkins" <LI>Says she had a three egg white omelet for breakfast <LI>Wants to argue about why she won't ...."

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Old 09-18-2003, 03:35 PM
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Long story that I'll try to make short.....
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>Co-worker complains of hunger after three days on "Atkins"
<LI>Says she had a three egg white omelet for breakfast
<LI>Wants to argue about why she won't eat the yolk or fat because of her cholesterol
<LI>I assure her that I have a bad family history and my recent tests were excellent
<LI>More negative comments about fat which I counter with "read the book" (this is not a hostile situation)
<LI> At lunch she comments on "That Atkins Diet" as she's eating her salad with on of the sugar laden no-fat dressings.[/list]
Now what, I've already suggested that she read the book. My natural tendency is to stay out of it from here on unless she asks for help. I just hate to see her fail and blame the diet when she didn't follow the guidelines.

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Old 09-18-2003, 03:51 PM
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It has been my experience that if someone says they want to follow the plan properly, they will read up and learn what to do to be successful. However, if they are just 'winging it', and it appears thats just what your co-worker is doing, I personally feel that, for all of your good intentions, it will simply fall on deaf ears. As the saying goes, "the proof is in the pudding". Unfortunately, it seems your co-worker is not totally committed to the plan, and any attempt to help may be received as pressuring. Lay back, and see how she progresses. If she continues with little success, and she is really determined to stick with it, she may come to you for guidance. Good luck.

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Old 09-18-2003, 04:05 PM
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I'd just tell her that if she were really "on Atkins", she wouldn't be hungry, and leave it at that.

(But then, I'm a smartazz.)

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More than likely, nothing you say is going to phase her one way or the other.. She'll see your results, and either wake up, or won't.

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Old 09-18-2003, 04:11 PM
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I have the same situation at my office. A coworker I adore dearly is closing in on 300lbs, 50, and a diabetic. After I had lost my 1st 25lbs or so she, along with her dr. thought it best she "give it a try". That was my first sign it wasn't going to go well. I've fully embraced that this is a permenent lifestyle change. After watching my mother slowly die from diabetic complications and knowing how much risk I had put myself in, for me it's all or nothing. At work I'm at my best, because I so firmly believe and want to show the world one -- how easy it is when you get down to basic's; and two -- this is not a fad, eat only meat and cheese diet. I drink at least 64oz of water durring the work day (a gallon all day long). I never sneak a nibble or any "questionable" treats. I eat a huge salad everyday for lunch and a few days a week make my eggs, veggi-sausage, and Maggie's ceral breakfast at the office. I know the only way to pursuade is by example, and I have about 3-4 co workers whom I know could benefit by going LC. When someone ask I suggest researching all the plans, what works for me may not for you.

Anyway, sorry for the ramble... So knowing her personality I knew the "give it a try attitude", was a bad sign. Then the diet soda's instead of water. The chicken strip from KFC (no attempt to de-bread them). Then we went out for dinner one night.. The 1/2 a rye loaf (Outback) didn't bother me because I have that every few weeks -- after the salad, veggie and steak IF I have room. But then the cream of something soup, a few bite of the baked potato...

I had to keep my mouth shut. When she'd tell me about the "just a nibble of this" I knew it was doomed. Guess what? Her weight loss stopped. What could be wrong? Then came the trip, where she decided to just go off plan and restart when she got back. Hasn't restarted...

It all boils down to the old "lead a horse to water" theory. All I can do is continue to succeed and hope it will give her the motivation to really look into plans, ANY plan, and stick to it!!

Good luck. Feed the good advice when asked and other wise don't judge. We've all been that "pestered fat girl/boy" and know how little that helps!!

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Old 09-18-2003, 04:36 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by shrinkydink:


(But then, I'm a smartazz.)

:-)
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Old 09-18-2003, 05:00 PM
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Old 09-18-2003, 05:28 PM
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What Finzup said. Personally, I'd just nod my head at her and go back to eating my steak and lobster. You showed her where the water is. If she wants it, she'll go back, find it, and drink it.

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Old 09-18-2003, 08:20 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Now what, I've already suggested that she read the book. My natural tendency is to stay out of it from here on unless she asks for help. I just hate to see her fail and blame the diet when she didn't follow the guidelines.
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How about giving her URL for this website? Maybe reading some of the info and posts will seem more interesting than reading "a boring old book".

Maybe change your user name, though, LOL!

Or, giver her Laura Richards' URL (The Secret to Low Carb Success) : http://www.lowcarbsuccess.net/

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I have personally "mentored" a few of my friends that came to me and wanted to lose weight. Some have since given up , but they cheated the entire time they were on it and could noit understand why they stopped losing weight. I no longer ask"how is it going". We just don't talk about it, and that is best. I like what Docor I said about smiling and continuing to eat your steak and lobster. Ultimately it would be nice to "save your friend" , but you are really in this for you.



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Speaking of all this makes me remember what Andrea said something like "you can't blame the diet if you don't follow it." It was much better the way she said it....!

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Old 09-19-2003, 11:20 AM
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Maybe your coworker is a "poor me" type person - you know the type, it's SO much easier to be the "victim" of a "bad diet" than to actually do what it takes to make it work!

Does she OWN the book? If not maybe you could buy her the paperback edition, wrap it up pretty, and leave it on her desk.

I think YOU are not personally responsible for what this woman decides to put in her mouth anyway, but if you're like me, you can't RESIST helping someone who says they need help, until they prove they're unwilling to help themselves anyway!

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Old 09-20-2003, 01:10 AM
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All you can do is watch - kind of like watching a traffic accident in progress. I have an acquaintance who saw how well i was doing on atkins and decided he would use it to lose 30 pounds (despite needing to lose 50). He broke all the rules after the first month but he lost his 30 pounds and now is back to eating almost exactly what he ate before. He's so proud of the fact that he only gained back 4 pounds in 3 weeks. lol. He's only 37 so he has a few years left before weight gain starts to accelerate if he doesn't change his eating habits. I keep my mouth tightly sealed because It wouldn't do any good anyway.
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Old 09-20-2003, 01:49 AM
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Judy, I agree with what everyone else has said. You cannot change her, unless she wants to be changed. I would just stay out of it.

I have about the same situation with the gym teacher, who is dead set against Adkins. We ordered lunch out yesterday, so I had hot wings and a salad. While she ate her carb-loaded Cazone, she commented on how she did not know how I expected to lose weight eating all of that fat. I just smiled and told her I did not expect to lose weight, I WAS losing weight . This woman has something to say about my lunch everyday. I have to eat with her, our lunches are the same time. The thing is 4 days out of the week I eat salad. She can find comments to make about that ! I am beginning to think she is jealous. She was in WW when I was and had loss weight. Like I did, she has gained it all back.

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Old 09-20-2003, 04:44 AM
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Thanks for all your comments. I believe that my strategy from here will be to stay out of it until asked. The weird thing about this is that the person trying to lose weight and winging the Atkins program is already very thin. I doubt that even in strictly following the program that she would lose much weight.

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