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Old 04-25-2004, 06:49 PM
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Hey lovely people, we are all sisters and brothers of the Atkins diet or a low carb diet. Can someone help me please with the weight thing?

I have been on the scale for the past week at 60.7 kilos and I wont budge why not? I seem to fit into some things better but I aint budging and I notice on my scale the body fat scale that is, the body fat percentage keeps rising to a whopping 37% what on earth is happening? My keto strips are on the second to the last darkest level and has not gone down to a lighter shade in a week yet the body fat rises and the weight wont budge why not? I may be over my 20 gms possibly since I use a lot of herbs and spices in my cooking. What do I need to do to shake this off?

And next question why is the body fat rising?:jumpgreen I have been using heavy cream two tablespoons every other day in my food, 2-3 oz of zero carb cheese, and no sugar, no flour only meats, eggs, fish, lettuce of different varities, and cucumber no other vege, oh sometimes I go to town on brazil nuts but they are the lowest of all the nuts so I measure and count hte carbs and minus the fibre so I am okay on that. I do exercise so so, I wont lie and say I do it daily am to lazy but plan to get cracking here in a bit.

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Old 04-25-2004, 07:22 PM
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Okay I will talk to myself, I just tested my ketones and it went from dark purple yesterday to light purple today, so I will have no prolly knock off the cheese and cream totally. I have done up to 15 gms last week and did fine to budge the scale but this week I am stalled.
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Old 04-25-2004, 08:44 PM
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Hi, Mabel.

You're not talking to yourself, this is a bulletin board. Unlike a chat room, there's not always going to be an instant reply. We do have chats, however, and I hope you'll join one when it's in session.

I take it that you are still in the first 2 weeks, induction? It might be helpful to post your typical menu and let the veterans here see if they can spot anything that might be a problem.

As to your body fat scale, they're notoriously unreliable, changing readings depending on variables such as whether or not your feet are perspiring.

Meantime, make yourself at home.
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Old 04-25-2004, 08:52 PM
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First of all, I want to ask how you are measuring the body fat? I have heard that there are scales that give body fat readings in addition to your weight. The problem with them is that they are not always accurate.

Second, you said that you weigh 60.7 kilos; 60.7 kg * 2.2 lbs/kg = 133.5 pounds. (Did I do that right?) On Atkins, the more weight you have to loose, the faster you loose it. The last 10 pounds are the most difficult, and take the longest to loose. If you are at 133, then your weight loss might go slower than someone with more to loose, since you are closer to your ideal weight.

My third question is how long have you been doing this? I am assuming that since you are posting this on the OWL section, you have been doing this for at least two weeks, and have gone through the 14 day induction. Have you lost anything since you started?

Something that might help us to help you would be to post a typical days worth of meals for us to see exactly what you are eating.
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Old 04-26-2004, 09:19 AM
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Hi, Mabel.

You're not talking to yourself, this is a bulletin board. Unlike a chat room, there's not always going to be an instant reply. We do have chats, however, and I hope you'll join one when it's in session.

I take it that you are still in the first 2 weeks, induction? It might be helpful to post your typical menu and let the veterans here see if they can spot anything that might be a problem.

As to your body fat scale, they're notoriously unreliable, changing readings depending on variables such as whether or not your feet are perspiring.

Meantime, make yourself at home.
Hi Maggie, I am a board owner myself so I kinda know how the forum works, just that I had seen about 23 people on at the same time I just thought they would see my topic. OOPS. I guess i'm a hurry bunny.

Okay I have been back and forth with induction I have or want to lose 8-13 lbs and I seem to be stuck at 60.7 kilos = 133/54 lbs.

My usual menu while on induction is this:

Two - three eggs scrambled with salt, pepper, 1tbsp heavy cream, chedder 2oz cheese or less grated. this cheese comes from the uk and it says .01 carbs per 4oz so am safe. Then for lunch am usually not hungry but if I am usually tuna salad, salmon salad, or some kind of canned fish in mayo/mustard sauce, so I dont eat anything if I am not hungry at lunch. I drink 2-3 litres of mineral water a day PURE natural no additives. Dinner Half of roast chicken, fish Salmon, lamb, rib eye steak, pot roast, etc with a home ground herb seasoning which totals about 2 carbs per tbsp, salt pepper from the mill, which I will say is a mix pepper corn, tobasco 0 carbs in that. cream soups broccoli, avocado, leeks, celery etc, I should stop the soups. if i dont have a soup I only have a leaf sald with cucumbers and mix my own dressing, mayo/mustard,splender i pk and vinegar 2tbsps red usually since it is 0 carbs. According to my charts I can eat a whole head of lettuce and still be on the up. I make hte salad with much more I just pick out the cucumber and lettuce. I sometimes snack on 12 brazil nuts if I do become hungry between a late breakfast and late dinner. I hve been in keto mode the whole time but yesterday I gauged on asparagus home made soup and must have taken in about 50 carbs yesterday becuase my color turned lavender in stead of hte second to last dark purple, so am back to the dropping of the additives like spices etc. basically I think my carb count is being added up in the spices and seasonings I use.

What do you girls use to season foods? I am used to more culinary cuisine so it is hard to draw back to salt and pepper. With Salmon I grill it with lemon and dill and salt mix so that is not high. Maybe it is the cream or cheese or nuts I dont know. But I have not budged. And the body fat keeps rising, yet my clothes are fitting a little bit better.

Oh I usually have a sauteed vege normally zucchini or some other low carb vege if I am not having a salad usually steamed with salt and melted butter poured over it.

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Old 04-26-2004, 10:36 AM
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Many of us had hit a '3rd week stall' as they call it. I'm not sure where you are in the timing of your plan, but after the first induction woosh - which you definitely had - sometimes it takes the body a little while to settle itself down.
I don't want to scare you, but mine lasted for 4 weeks. Then I had to up my carbs (I was staying too low) in order to start losing again. My body had gone into 'starvation mode' (although I sure wasn't!)

looks to me like you could be adding more veggies to add more carbs - and spread them out during the day. and you need to eat lunch. The intake needs to be spread out more evenly.

I'm just making suggestions. I have a whole lot more to lose, and am at a snail's pace - but this seemed to get it started again.
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Old 04-26-2004, 10:43 AM
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Your menu looks fine to me of course I am not an expert. If I had to guess I would say that you are so close to your goal weight that this is just going to be a slow process for you. Good luck and come here often and let us know how it is going.
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Old 04-26-2004, 12:27 PM
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I have one of those body fat scales and I can tell you positively that you cannot trust them. Just as an experiment a few years back I used the body fat function. Then I drank 2 glasses of water and did it again. The body fat % changed by 10%. There is a website that estimates body fat % by recording a dozen or more different body measurements. I wouldn't put a whole lot of stock in how accurate it is but I think it's closer than the Body fat scales. The site is linked below.

www.mybodycomp.com
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Old 04-26-2004, 02:39 PM
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Also, you're sweating the color of your strips too much. Ketosis is really like being pregnant... you are or you are not. There really isn't a "degree or ketosis" or anything. The color of your strip is usually a function of how much water you're intaking at any given time. The more water you drink, the lighter the strip. In fact, if you're deep purple all the time, I'd highly suggest you drink more water. If you're only drinking bottled mineral water, then I'd wager a guess you're not drinking as much as you should due to expense, etc. Get a purifier jug or something, and drink it by the glassload.

If you don't drink enough water, your kidneys can't process out all the ketones, and your liver is left to do the work. But we want our liver doing other things like metabolizing fat, etc., so keeping the kidneys cleaned out is a priority. Drink more.

Eat more veggies, too, as I am in agreement with everyone else in that regard.

Finally, GET OFF THE SCALE! Weigh once a week, if that, on the same morning, after the same routine, and in the same clothes. You're driving yourself nuts with it, and trying to adjust daily, which is impossible, frustrating, and will lead to discouragement.
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Old 04-27-2004, 07:50 PM
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Many of us had hit a '3rd week stall' as they call it. I'm not sure where you are in the timing of your plan, but after the first induction woosh - which you definitely had - sometimes it takes the body a little while to settle itself down.
I don't want to scare you, but mine lasted for 4 weeks. Then I had to up my carbs (I was staying too low) in order to start losing again. My body had gone into 'starvation mode' (although I sure wasn't!)

looks to me like you could be adding more veggies to add more carbs - and spread them out during the day. and you need to eat lunch. The intake needs to be spread out more evenly.

I'm just making suggestions. I have a whole lot more to lose, and am at a snail's pace - but this seemed to get it started again.
Hi Mary
That is the problem I wake like a Bear after winter, usually at 10 for the earliest and so my body does not want to eat until 2 hours after waking I have always been this way, so by the time noon comes around it is my breakfast time, that satistifes me until way past 5pm when it is time to start preparing dinner. Atkins book said if youare not hungry dont eat anything so do I stuff my face still? Hummm not good news to hear of a 4 week stall.

Check this out, yesterday I got my Keto strips to bring me back up to the dark purple not the final darkest but the dark one and I had taken in like 15 carbs, gues what I weighted today 2.24 lbs heavier, so I went off the stupid body fat scale (which by the way I think it is lying) and got on my Taylor manual and it said I was 2.24 lbs lighter so who is lying? Maybe I should not weight daily since it is discouraging when Iweigh heavy. Yet my jeans fit me baggy so I dont know which scale to believe.

so tell me Mary, if we are to have nor more than 20 carbs, can all the 20 or less carbs be in veges and salad? or not? Maybe that is where I am going wrong.
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Old 04-27-2004, 07:53 PM
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I have one of those body fat scales and I can tell you positively that you cannot trust them. Just as an experiment a few years back I used the body fat function. Then I drank 2 glasses of water and did it again. The body fat % changed by 10%. There is a website that estimates body fat % by recording a dozen or more different body measurements. I wouldn't put a whole lot of stock in how accurate it is but I think it's closer than the Body fat scales. The site is linked below.

www.mybodycomp.com
Rob thanks hon, read my reply below about the body fat scale measuring me 2.24 lbs heavier when my manual taylor measured me 2.24 lighter this morning and if you saw me there is no way you would belive I am 37% body fat I still want to know where that is, in my arteries?
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Old 04-29-2004, 02:58 PM
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sorry I missed your last question. You should only be at the 20 or less during the 2 week induction. After that you should be adding carbs back in. there is a 'ladder' of foods for reintroducing 5 carbs per day each week.

You can always fill out the carbs with veggies - that is the first choice. Then nuts and berries. I can't remember the rest, that is usually as far as I have gotten. I'm adding back in the fruit cause I miss it, although only certain fruits (berries, melon)
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Old 04-30-2004, 02:01 AM
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I don't know what your starting and goal weights are. But if it's not that much, take it off slowly and steady. I heard that fast off can mean fast on. I've been doing this slowly and healthy since January. I don't get big "whooshes". But I have been slowly and steadily losing. PATIENCE and TAKE YOUR TIME.
I do try to do a combination of walk/run and light weights at least 45 min. every day.
Drink 70+ ounces of water a day.
Try to eat clean and keep carbs low with only a slight increase on the weekends so my body doesn't think I'm starving it.
No "low carb products"
Do use Splenda very sparingly.
Once in a while I do cheat, but I accept it and just continue on the diet.
Once I reach my goal, I might try some of these low carb deals. But since I
don't have a tremendous amount to lose, I just keep to eating clean so I don't get tempted.
I have found that when I have the occasional treat, it's not such a craving that I thought it would be once I have it.
I do watch my fats (cream in my decaf) and salt (low salt bacon.)
They say to eat five small meals to keep your metabolish going. I sometimes have 5 small meals. (Breakfast, midmorning snack, lunch, dinner, dessert before bed.)
Hope this helps. Hang in there.
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Old 04-30-2004, 09:11 AM
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I don't know what your starting and goal weights are. But if it's not that much, take it off slowly and steady. I heard that fast off can mean fast on. I've been doing this slowly and healthy since January. I don't get big "whooshes". But I have been slowly and steadily losing. PATIENCE and TAKE YOUR TIME.
I do try to do a combination of walk/run and light weights at least 45 min. every day.
Drink 70+ ounces of water a day.
Try to eat clean and keep carbs low with only a slight increase on the weekends so my body doesn't think I'm starving it.
No "low carb products"
Do use Splenda very sparingly.
Once in a while I do cheat, but I accept it and just continue on the diet.
Once I reach my goal, I might try some of these low carb deals. But since I
don't have a tremendous amount to lose, I just keep to eating clean so I don't get tempted.
I have found that when I have the occasional treat, it's not such a craving that I thought it would be once I have it.
I do watch my fats (cream in my decaf) and salt (low salt bacon.)
They say to eat five small meals to keep your metabolish going. I sometimes have 5 small meals. (Breakfast, midmorning snack, lunch, dinner, dessert before bed.)
Hope this helps. Hang in there.
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Okay so you are not really doing the Atkins plan then? Please see my post on the industion thread so I dont have to repeat myself here. Okay. I am not big I think if the scales are right I am about 129-132 and 5.7inches. I would prefer to be 125 or less and leaner than I am now I am blob jello, whoosh an not even my wonder bra fits since everything falls all over the place if I try to wear it :( so if you would like just look at my post on the Induction topic on the next board okay sweety?
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Not to discourage you Mabel, I havent budged for over a year...if your at your last pounds thats what happens...your body is telling you your there...and yes...we want that extra 10-15 incase we do start going back up...who wouldnt...now im trying the Zone...gain one pound on that but i know its my walking i do 3-5x a week...this is were our patience is tested....hang in there, at least your not gaining...

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